[Offtopic] Eduweb

stephen at melbpc.org.au stephen at melbpc.org.au
Thu Feb 1 03:35:03 EST 2007

Hi Ros and all,

Ahh .. interesting .. quality stats .. and showing you are right
that not many Windows users have auto-update switched on. 

And still, Eduweb contractors won't let IE7 users apply online
though, the 'getting help' section was expanded on Jan 22nd,
and also, a 6 page pop-up survey was added that gets stuck
here <http://secure-au.imrworldwide.com/cgi-bin/perseus6.pl>

Anyway, they must be having 'major' IE7 compliance problems
if it's still broken at this stage. One also notes they have Ed Dpt
laptop problems (sigh) As Roland writes, all other job sites work
just fine. Laptop proxy-address problems .. ok .. but, IE7 issues?

(quote) "Some teaching staff have experienced issues when using their 
laptop to access ROL from home due to the proxy server settings on the 
laptop for connecting to the school’s domain. To enable access from home, 
laptops should have the laptoplogin.vbs script installed to support 
different login scripts based on IP address .. 
<http://www.eduweb.vic.gov.au/techroom/forums/20160/ShowPost.aspx> " (end 

Education is now Australia's fourth largest export-earner, and it's big 
business. I do think we should take more care of teachers, and business.

Anyway Ros, good luck with your new notebook computer, and I hope all the
fine folk at Bentleigh SC appreciate how lucky they are to have you :-)

At 11:48 PM 31/01/2007, Roslyn Meadows writes:

Hi Stephen,
I checked my website statistics (for a cafe in Richmond) for January and 
thought the following might interest you -
Of 19110 unique visits to the website (who IMHO would be a fairly 
reasonable representation of the general public)
IE 7         12.3%
IE 6         67%             !!!!!!!!!!!!
All Firefox versions 13.5%
Other browsers (Netscape, Opera etc) make up the rest.
Also I purchased a new laptop yesterday and after downloading all 
available updates (how tedious - download, install, reboot - then repeat 
numerous times) IE7 had still not installed, I eventually just manually 
downloaded it from MS.  I thought this strange because it did 
automatically update on an older laptop I have.
Although to you and I auto update just seems natural and sensible I still 
come across people who have no idea what it is, or how to set it up. 
Remember many people really have little knowledge of the finer workings 
of their PC except for how to read and send email, surf the web, and get 
the pics off their camera (a perfect eg is my sister, & her hubby!)
So, chances are until Vista becomes more widespread than XP most people 
will continue to use IE6 - except those of us who are more technically 
savvy and therefore update - or choose Firefox!
BTW Happy New Year and hope you all enjoyed your holidays!
Ros Meadows (Back at BentleighSC!!)
meadows.roslyn.m at edumail.vic.gov.au
"Never put off until tomorrow what you can reasonably put off until the 
week after next" Anonymous Couch Potato

From: offtopic-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Stephen Loosley
Sent: Fri 1/19/2007 5:23 AM
To: offtopic at edulists.com.au
Subject: Re: [Offtopic] Good luck with your VicEdDpt advertisement

At 07:25 PM 18/01/2007, Roland writes:

> they might insist that only users running MS Vista
> with IE7 can use it

Well, it might make more sense perhaps :-) I imagine
by now most people running windows with auto-update
switched on (and why wouldn't one) will be looking at the
virtual world via IE7.

>Online employment groups such as http://yahoocareers.seek.com.au 
<http://yahoocareers.seek.com.au/>  http://mycareer.com.au 
<http://mycareer.com.au/>  http://www.careersonline.com.au 
<http://www.careersonline.com.au/>  http://www.vedior.com 
<http://www.vedior.com/>  all work really fast, have really interactive 
websites and dont encourage users to login with any specific web browser. 
Gosh, I can even do my online banking with an operating system that runs 
off a USB key.
>It is about time that insist on broader interoperability, DET should 
only provide content and functions that work with any standards compliant 

Thoroughly agreed .. imho, for way, way too long now the whole
Vic-Ed online-recruitment back-end machinery has been broken.
None the least because of, as you say, interoperability problems.

Up-grade compatibility issues should be handled by contractors
in a professional and timely manner, and it should NOT become
a problem for any school to find staff to front classes on day one.

Regards people
Stephen Loosley
Victoria Australia

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