[Year 12 IT Apps] Re: Teaching ITA to Yr 11s

Tue Dec 11 13:56:21 EST 2007

The short answer is Yes. 

Refer to page 3 section 1.1.1 (also p. 8 section 1.3.5) of the VCE and VCAL Administrative Handbook 2008

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>>> "Roland Gesthuizen" <rgesthuizen at gmail.com> Tuesday, 11 December 2007 0:52 >>>
Sorry folks, just reluctant to spell out the details of specific issues but I can word this in general terms.

Many months ago I had a specific inquiry from a year 11 student who completed ITA Unit 3 and 4 and struggled with others. After completing their year 11 subjects, they wanted to know if they could go back and tackle Unit 1 and 2 during year 12. As it was, there was little point as they are on the path to have sufficient VCE credits from a LOTE subject they were also studying (thank goodness for foreign language topics) but it did prick my curiosity. 

Regards Roland

On 01/12/2007, Robert Hind <robert at yinnar.com ( mailto:robert at yinnar.com )> wrote:

Not sure where you are in that box, cube, sphere, bucket, peck, bushel, . . .! 

I don't know the VCAA answer - but what would be the bloody point in doing units 1 and 2 of a subject after completing units 3 and 4?

Robert Hind (Semi-retired)
Ex Traralgon and Ashwood

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From: Roland Gesthuizen ( mailto:rgesthuizen at gmail.com ) 
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Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Re: Teaching ITA to Yr 11s

Beyond boredom, class numbers, sequence and timetable blocking .. would anything stop a year 11 student who did ITA unit 3 and 4 from doing IT Unit 1 and 2 in year 12? 

Just thinking outside the box (cube, sphere or bucket) .. 

Regards Roland

On 30/11/2007, Robert Hind <robert at yinnar.com> wrote: 

This obviously changes over time as the universities, through VTAC, change their requirements and as the VCE changes. The VICTER 2008 manual, the one current for students in year 12 this year states that (pages 7 and 8):
"no more that two IT studies. . . can be included in the Primary Four. . . . IT studies include: VCE Information Systems; VCE Information Processing and Management; and VCE VET Information Technology." So it would seem that students doing both this year have been able to count both towards their ENTER and this seems to continue into the future - at least up to 2010.
Of course this VICTER was written before ITA and SOD started as the VICTER is written for year 10 students planning their courses, ie for this year's year 12s the VICTER 2008 was written in 2005.
Robert Hind (Semi-retired)
Ex Traralgon and Ashwood

----- Original Message ----- 
From: DRADR at whc.vic.edu.au 
To: itapps at edulists.com.au 
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 2:59 PM
Subject: RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] Re: Teaching ITA to Yr 11s

Debra

I don't believe this is correct. The Victer 2010 publication (available from the Career's teacher) page 8 indicates that you can use either IPM or ITA and Info Systems or Software Development in your ENTER calculations.

Ray Drady

Western Heights College

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From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of McDonald, Debra A1
Sent: Friday, 30 November 2007 1:59
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Subject: RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] Re: Teaching ITA to Yr 11s

here is the problem with that.... the students can only use the score from either ITA or SOD to assist them in getting into the university as I had a student who tried both and it was rejected...

hope yours had better luck.

cheers
Debra McDonald
Network Manager
Lyndhurst Secondary College
Cranbourne
(03) 5996 0144

From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Rattan, Kushum L
Sent: Fri 30/11/07 1:29 PM
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Subject: RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] Re: Teaching ITA to Yr 11s

I offered IPM(ITA) in one year and Info Systems(SOD) in the second to
overcome this problem.
Kushum Rattan
IT Co-ordinator
Gisborne Secondary College
Phone: (03) 5428 3691
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[mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au ( mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au )] On Behalf Of Meadows, Roslyn M
Sent: Friday, 30 November 2007 12:00 PM
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Get them doing a first year uni IT subject???

Roslyn Meadows
ICT Coordinator
Head of Assessment and Reporting
Bentleigh Secondary College | 9579 1044 | 0412 614 062

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[mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au ( mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au )] On Behalf Of Russell Edwards
Sent: Friday, 30 November 2007 11:37 AM
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On 30/11/2007, at 10:53 AM, Meadows, Roslyn M wrote:
> I think what Kent and Roland mean is that you just enrol your Year 
> 11's
> into the 3/4 unit, so they do ITApps SAC's and the exam, and at the 
> end
> of the year they have one year 12 subject up their sleeve.

Oops, my mistake! That sounds much more sensible, although what do you 
do with the kids who want to do 2 years of IT?

Russell Edwards
Whittlesea Secondary College

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