[Technical] NOS Switchover Query

Thu Jul 19 16:27:13 EST 2007

Morning is fine. I think Neil was interested in coming down also so we might
try for say around 9.30?

On 7/19/07, Russell Curr <RUSSELL at avila.vic.edu.au> wrote:
>
> Daniel,
>
> Tuesday 31st should be ok - morning would suit me better - how about
> you..?
>
> Russell
>
> --------------------------------------------------------
> Russell Curr
> Network Manager
> Avila College
> Ph: 9831-9645
> Fax: 03-9888-1202
> email: russell at avila.vic.edu.au
> -------------------------------------------------------
>
> >>> dstefyn at gmail.com 07/19/07 12:52 pm >>>
> Hi Russell,
>
> Sounds like this might go ahead pretty easily.
>
> At Westall we run a pretty similar system - moodle, squid as a linux
> proxy,
> sarg, novell integration etc. Would be good to organise something.
>
> This Tuesday we are doing a rollout, but howabout the following Tuesday
> (31st). Failing that, the Tuesday after that, 7th August? Or any days in
> between, my timetable is flexible at the moment.
>
> Perhaps we could schedule it so that both Neil and myself can come throw
> some questions around together if both parties agree?
>
> Daniel Stefyn
> Westall Secondary College
> School: (03) 9546 3233
> Mobile: 0417 149 492
>
> On 7/19/07, Russell Curr <RUSSELL at avila.vic.edu.au> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Daniel,
> >
> > you are most welcome.  Tuesdays would be the best day for me - less
> > encumbered with classes. Gives me some suitable dates and we can then
> make
> > arrangements.
> >
> > We have both staff Mac laptops (owned by staff) and a class set of Mac
> > laptops, plus a few iMacs.  We have not configured the staff laptops to
> > automatically attach to the network, although staff can login to Novell
> and
> > access their home folders, via the wireless points around the school.  I
> > have an iMac on my desk that I am using for most of my day to day work,
> and
> > we have this setup to authenticate via Netware. And I also run  XP via
> > Vmware on the Mac so I can write reports with Markbook.  I have been
> doing
> > this for several months with no significant issues.
> >
> > cheers
> > Russell
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------
> > Russell Curr
> > Network Manager
> > Avila College
> > Ph: 9831-9645
> > Fax: 03-9888-1202
> > email: russell at avila.vic.edu.au
> > -------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > >>> dstefyn at gmail.com 07/18/07 4:01 pm >>>
> > Hi Russell,
> >
> > We run a pretty similar setup here at Westall, but I'm interested in how
> > you
> > manage the Mac authentication into Novell. A few staff have macbook
> > laptops
> > and so far we have been using windows virtual machines to do the Novell
> > integration, anything easier would have a strong ease of use bonus.
> >
> > I understand Swinburne are also pretty heavily into Novell and
> Groupwise,
> > I'm wondering how you'd respond to allowing a site visit to have a look
> > over
> > your setup and possibly seeing if we can arrange any mutual technology
> > collaboration.
> >
> > Daniel Stefyn
> >
> > On 7/17/07, Russell Curr <RUSSELL at avila.vic.edu.au> wrote:
> > >
> > > ..and similar here Keith.  We have Novell, Windows, and Linux
> > > servers.  All authentication done via Novell; email on Groupwise, but
> > use
> > > Linux for Moodle, Squid, Sarg, CUPS, PaperCut (to manage printing and
> > web
> > > credits - works a treat).  And we are starting to deploy Mac
> > workstations
> > > (laptops and desktop systems) that authenticate into Novell.  Have
> also
> > > started using VMserver after using VMworkstation for a couple of
> years.
> > >
> > > cheers
> > > Russell
> > >
> > > --------------------------------------------------------
> > > Russell Curr
> > > Network Manager
> > > Avila College
> > > Ph: 9831-9645
> > > Fax: 03-9888-1202
> > > email: russell at avila.vic.edu.au
> > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > >>> rgesthuizen at gmail.com 07/17/07 11:39 am >>>
> > > Same here Keith, we run a hybrid network that happily supports Novell,
> > > Windows and Linux servers and a mix of workstations. Authentication by
> > > Novell, application distribution and reimaging by Zenworks, print
> > charging
> > > with pcounter, some dedicated applications on a Windows server
> > > (bibliotech,
> > > markbook etc), Linux (mail / moodle / drupal / sarg / squid /
> squidguard
> > > etc). I took some cues from Monash and Swinburne that run similar
> Novell
> > > networks (where our Tech comes from).
> > >
> > > Of course this isn't Highlander
> > > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highlander_%2528film%2529>and we are
> > looking
> > > to support a school, not a SOHO <
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SOHO_network
> > > >
> > > network.
> > >
> > > Instead, give some thought now towards virtualising and migrating all
> > your
> > > your network servers using VMWare technology. No reason you cannot run
> > all
> > > these happily together on the one or two physical servers. Once done,
> > you
> > > can step back and reexamine your network services once hardware is
> > removed
> > > from the equation and the focus is put back onto services. :-)
> > >
> > > Regards Roland
> > >
> > > On 16/07/07, Keith Richardson <keithcr at fastmail.fm> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi everyone - just back in Oz after 3 months away OS. Loved it, but
> > have
> > > > come down to Earth with a thud...
> > > > I am investigating switching our network from Novell to Microsoft
> 2003
> > > > Server.
> > > > Any advice?
> > > > Cheers, Keith
> > > > Keith Richardson
> > > >
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