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Cameron Bell bell.cameron.p at edumail.vic.gov.au
Mon Apr 23 07:31:22 EST 2007

Funny you should say that. I have an English teacher that had a bad HDD 
replaced by Lenovo. Was able to keep old one to try to recover his data. 
He downloaded lots of trial data recovery software- which of course 
asked for $ to actually recover the data rather than just display it.
I booted from Ubuntu and we plugged in the old drive via a USB. Saw the 
files and  got the data onto the network (couldn't dump it onto his new 
HDD - I don't think the live CD gives access to the inbuilt HDD???  Well 
I couldn't find it in the usual places anyway.)
Not a problem. However I think MEPIS is a better live CD to use in these 
situations, more tools.


Roland Gesthuizen wrote:
> Not as funny as it sounds .. an English teacher had some horrid 
> connection issues that caused several blue screens of death. I had too 
> much on my plate and the Levito tech would not be in until after the 
> weekend. I I tossed him a self booting Ubuntu CDROM and a spare IT 
> student to show him how to boot from it. I was only buying him some 
> time so he could do some typing with OpenOffice on his USB key but in 
> fact, with no instruction they got the wireless Internet working at 
> school, a printer and later even got it working at home. The following 
> week he asked for it to be installed as a dual boot option and refuses 
> to hand back the CDROM.
> As he put it, "insurance from the madness with something that bloody 
> works".
> We forget that most casual users are less than forgiving with computer 
> errors and perhaps less demanding of what we think that they might 
> need from a computer.
> Regards Roland
> On 22/04/07, *victor rajewski* <askvictor at gmail.com 
> <mailto:askvictor at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     Having recently acquired an IBM r52 notebook, I had some similar
>     (perhaps not quite as demoralising) experiences trying to re-format
>     and re-install XP on it. The 'blue IBM button' restore process failed,
>     then mysteriously stopped appearing as an option. Trying to install XP
>     from scratch worked, but then there were no drivers with which to
>     access either the usb port or network. not having any blank cds
>     around, this presented a unique challenge to having a working system.
>     My solution was to insert an Ubuntu Linux CD, and about half an hour
>     later (with no input expect a few questions at the very start), I had
>     a perfectly working laptop - all drivers working, basic applications
>     pre-installed. For the odd occasion I need windows apps, I either use
>     WINE, or if that don't work (only two rarely used apps) I run windows
>     inside VMware.
>     cheers
>     vik
>     On 4/21/07, stephen at melbpc.org.au <mailto:stephen at melbpc.org.au>
>     <stephen at melbpc.org.au <mailto:stephen at melbpc.org.au>> wrote:
>     > Gentle Reader,
>     >
>     > Here are my experiences with a brand new IBM Lenovo Notebook
>     > Computer, purchased two days ago (and it left the factory exactly
>     > one month ago) factory loaded with Windows Vista Home Premium.
>     >
>     > 1. The automatic Register Your New IBM Computer start-up program
>     > window, which pops-up every time one powers-up, FAILS *every* time.
>     >
>     > 2. The pre-loaded Microsoft Office software (for a 60 day
>     Outlook, IE etc
>     > trial) will NOT accept the Microsoft Serial Number Sticker
>     number, which
>     > is stuck to the bottom of the machine, and will NOT run.
>     >
>     > 3. The sixty day pre-loaded version of Norton anti-virus,
>     anti-spyware etc
>     > tries to up-date itself with 24 Mb of updates. It gets around
>     two thirds
>     > through downloading recent up-dates, then stops, and takes turns
>     asserting
>     > either my new 80 Gig Drive is full, or that I need to re-install
>     Nortons?
>     >
>     > 4. The Microsoft Vista auto-update downloads/installs 27Mb of MS
>     security
>     > etc updates, and says it has registered my pre-installed copy of
>     Vista.
>     > But, there is now a permanent water mark message on the desktop
>     asserting
>     > that my factory IBM Lenovo copy of Windows Vista is *NOT* a
>     genuine copy.
>     > Presumably this means that Vista won't automatically update
>     anymore, thus
>     > fixing this problem, and also inevitable future Vista O/S
>     security issues.
>     >
>     > 5. The MSVista Control Panel window opens with NO visible icons
>     available.
>     >
>     > 6. I have not installed any software of my own what-so-ever but
>     every time
>     > I turn it on, it takes 5 minutes before I can use it, the hard
>     drive light
>     > stays on with the drive clicking for ten minutes, and then
>     claims that I
>     > have only 61% of Eighty Gig drive-space available. I've NOT
>     installed ANY
>     > of our software.
>     >
>     > For comparison, though I've bought and own many computers, this
>     notebook
>     > is to replace a 4-year-old Compaq notebook, with a 4 Gig drive,
>     which was
>     > never more than half full, and which performed faultlessly till
>     it died.
>     >
>     > 7. Though the computer comes with NO software disks of any kind,
>     of zero
>     > surprise, it has a program called 'PC-Doctor' pre-loaded. This
>     notebook
>     > passes all the dozen or so hardware tests available with this
>     program.
>     >
>     > However, it also has a screen that goes blank for 2-3 seconds at
>     random
>     > intervals, very often and with no discernable pattern. Also,
>     frequently
>     > during web browsing, one will be presented with a window
>     inviting one
>     > to 'go online' but closing the window and carrying on browsing
>     as before
>     > seems to work.
>     >
>     > I may be wrong but I think most of the problems are Vista
>     software issues.
>     >
>     > So gentle reader, judging from this farce, do avoid the once
>     all-powerful
>     > IBM and Microsoft combination for a notebook and operating
>     system if you
>     > are seeking a stress-free, trustworthy computing experience with
>     your
>     > next notebook purchase.
>     >
>     > For what it is worth, as well as the many hundreds of very
>     computer savvy
>     > people on these mailing lists, I am CCing this email to
>     IBM/Lenovo and
>     > Microsoft as well.
>     >
>     > Although I don't expect any email etc responses at all, from
>     either of
>     > them. If any response is received, I will email their responses
>     along to
>     > everyone on these lists and so possibly assist you when deciding
>     > computer / OS  purchases next time.
>     >
>     > Right now, I think that after returning this notebook for a
>     refund, I'll
>     > buy a new Mac.
>     >
>     > CC: Glen Boreham, IBM Managing Director and CEO
>     > CC  Nick White, Vista Product Manager, Microsoft
>     >
>     > Best wishes all,
>     > Stephen Loosley.
>     > (A High School IT Teacher for 10 years,
>     > with a Masters Degree (IT) etc .. sigh!)
>     > --
>     >
>     >
>     > Message sent using MelbPC WebMail Server
>     >
>     >
>     >
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> Roland Gesthuizen - ICT Coordinator - Westall Secondary College
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