[Year 12 IT Apps] OT: Rudd Money and Off Topic discussion

[Mark Kelly]

Hi Adrian.  I'm sympathetic - I go OT myself occasionally because this 
is where most of the people are - but lengthy OT threads do pollute the 
purpose of the list, and they do annoy people.

I don't mind deleting the occasional OT, but when they drown out 
legitimate postings they kill the reason for coming here.  People are 
here because the list is useful to their ITA needs.  Reduce that 
usefulness, and people leave.

Usenet has long known this problem, and the only Usenet groups that tend 
to thrive nowadays are the moderated ones.

I've maintained a loose hold on the reins here, allowing minor and brief 
OT threads, especially if topics are hot and urgent (e.g. reporting or 
Rudd at certain times).  But continuous OT is a different matter.

At the risk of sparking an OT flood, what do Kevork and other people 
here think?

Cheers
Mark

Adrian Janson wrote:
> Hi Mark (and all),
> 
> Can I suggest a compromise?
> 
> The last thing that I (or others) will want to do is to subscribe to a dozen
> more lists based on topics that are the topics of the moment - nor would I
> really want to subscribe to an 'Off-topic' list for the reasons you have
> stated.  This community is so well established that I feel it is entirely
> reasonably to have this sort of discussion on this list - it's really
> discussions about the football or the weather that are truly 'off-topic'.
> 
> If those posting off-topic use the subject header of the message to state
> this clearly, then those not interested in reading the emails simply need to
> press the delete key (as I sometimes do).  It's a slight inconvenience but I
> feel a fair one.
> 
> Cheers,
> Adrian
>  
> Adrian Janson, 
> VITTA President
> Director of ICT, 
> Melbourne High School, 
> Forrest Hill, South Yarra 3141 Australia.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au]
> On Behalf Of Mark Scott
> Sent: Thursday, 4 September 2008 8:49 AM
> To: 'Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List'
> Subject: RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] A Short Off topic Ruddy warning
> 
> 
> I am considering withdrawing from this email list because of the amount of
> off-topic emails at the moment.
> 
> I know lots of us are involved in the Ruddy money and ruddy networks and
> ruddy laptops but I'm not and I'm sure lots of other ITA teachers aren't
> either.
> 
> Please take these discussions somewhere else.
> 
> Mark Scott
> Luther College
> "If you don't change direction, you will probably end up where you are
> heading." Sara Felder
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au]
> On Behalf Of Mark Kelly
> Sent: Thursday, 4 September 2008 8:02 AM
> To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] A Short Off topic Ruddy warning
> 
> Yes.  But note that the Lenovo DESKTOP _is_ part of the NSSCF panel.
> 
> Oops.  Offtopic  :-(
> 
> Kent Beveridge wrote:
>> D'oh!...Just realised the r61 etc is part of the laptop program in govt
> schools. D'oh!
>> KB.
>>
>> Kent Beveridge,
>> I.T. co-ordinator
>> St. Brigids Catholic Sec. College
>> Horsham
>> email.. kbeveridge at stbc.vic.edu.au
>>
>> |<3|\|7  b3\/3r1D93 ?  ;-)
>>

>> ________________________________
>>
>> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Lappin, Jason M
>> Sent: Wed 9/3/2008 2:58 PM
>> To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
>> Subject: RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] A Short Off topic Ruddy warning
>>
>>
>> List
>> There was an email floating around a few weeks ago about problems with
> Windows Media player and the new R61. Any help??
>> Jason Lappin
>> Year 10 Coordinator
>> Rutherglen High School
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Stephen Digby
>> Sent: Wed 3/09/2008 2:46 PM
>> To: 'Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List'
>> Subject: RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] A Short Off topic Ruddy warning
>>
>>
>>
>> Can you refer me to the doc that stats this ?  Just to be sure....
>>
>> ====================================================
>> Stephen Digby, Learning Technology Manager
>> mailto: digby.stephen.p at edumail.vic.gov.au
>> Cheltenham Secondary College www.cheltsec.vic.edu.au
>> Ph: 613 955 55 955  Fx: 9555 8617 Mb: 0431-701-028
>> ====================================================
>> Short words are best and the old words when short are best of all.
> Winston
>> Churchill
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au
>> [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au]
>> On Behalf Of Mark Kelly
>> Sent: Wednesday, 3 September 2008 2:34 PM
>> To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
>> Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] A Short Off topic Ruddy warning
>>
>> For those who lease, and plan to apply for Rudd money, be aware that
>> we CANNOT lease with Rudd money.  The state education dept has forbidden
> it.
>> --
>> Mark Kelly

> 
> 
> --
> Mark Kelly



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