[Year 12 IT Apps] Q12 redux

[Mark Scott]

Yes you probably should have said nothing in the first place

Mark Scott
Luther College

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From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Robert Hind [robert at yinnar.com]
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 8:11 PM
To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Q12 redux

Mark,

I think, given the confidentiality clauses, etc that we sign as markers,
this question should go to the VCAA

Robert Hind (Semi-retired)
Ex Traralgon and Ashwood
robert at yinnar.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Kelly" <kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au>
To: "Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List"
<itapps at edulists.com.au>
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 8:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Q12 redux


> Hi Robert.  When you say you come to an agreement on the short answer
> section, does this mean they _don't_ discuss the answers for Section A?
>
> Robert wrote:
>> Thanks  Mark for all your effort.
>>
>> Well in the morning I'm off to the training session for the exam markers.
>> Always an interesting experience!
>>
>> The examiners together with the markers come an agreement on the marking
>> scheme for each of the questions in the short answer section. This
>> process deals with any problems with the interpretation of questions.
>>
>> And believe me that these sessions are sometimes quite heated!
>>
>> But is does mean that we do our best to give credit to students for
>> appropriate answers and ensure that the "best" students get the best
>> marks.
>>
>> Robert Hind (Semi-retired)
>> Ashwood and Traralgon
>> robert at yinnar.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Kelly"
>> <kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au>
>> To: "Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List"
>> <itapps at edulists.com.au>
>> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 2:45 PM
>> Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] Q12 redux
>>
>>
>>> I've been pondering Q12 and I've worked out where we've differed.  I've
>>> been thinking of the dropdown list more as a tool for selecting an
>>> existing ID, rather than entering a NEW record.
>>>
>>> The exam question does not explain the principal purpose of the form -
>>> is it for data entry or editing?  If it's for entry of new records, I
>>> agree that it would be pretty useless to use a dropdown list.  However
>>> for editing existing data, a dropdown list with matching "Find" button
>>> would be useful.
>>>
>>> So in that sense, I'm changing my mind.
>>>
>>> But I still don't accept that a dropdown list is suitable as the sole
>>> means of entering a title.
>>>
>>> Sure, provide a list stacked with common titles to save time for data
>>> entry, but there should be some other way of entering titles that are
>>> not in the list. (e.g. a simple "Other..." plus a textbox.)
>>>
>>> But, examiners being examiners, B is the best of a bad bunch of options.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Mark Kelly
>>> Manager - Information Systems
>>> McKinnon Secondary College
>>> McKinnon Rd McKinnon 3204, Victoria, Australia
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>>>
> --
> Mark Kelly
> Manager - Information Systems
> McKinnon Secondary College
> McKinnon Rd McKinnon 3204, Victoria, Australia
> Direct line / Voicemail: 8520 9085
> School Phone +613 8520 9000
> School Fax +613 9578 9253
> kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au
>
> Webmaster - http://www.mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au
> IT Lecture notes: http://vceit.com
> Moderator: IT Applications Mailing List
>
> Most people don't realise that small kitchen sponges, when nailed to the
> forehead, can really REALLY hurt.
>
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