[Year 12 IPM] OT - Edumail Exasperation
Meadows, Roslyn M
Meadows.Roslyn.M at edumail.vic.gov.au
Wed Nov 15 00:54:18 EST 2006
he created a rule to move all e-mail to a junk folder
So what you are saying is that all edumail is junk mail Roland??? hehe
then other rules to move selected messages back to the inbox
clever - if you have the time to set up all the rules!!
Throw it all out, and then retrieve just what you want back again!!! The min=
d boggles!!
Ros Meadows
Lauriston Girls School
meadowsro at lauriston.vic.edu.au <mailto:meadowsro at lauriston.vic.edu.au>
meadows.roslyn.m at edumail.vic.gov.au
Home computers are being called upon to perform many new functions, includin=
g the consumption of homework formerly eaten by the dog.
Doug Larson
________________________________
From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Roland Gesthuizen
Sent: Wed 11/15/2006 12:28 AM
To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management Teachers'Mailin=
g List
Subject: Re: [Year 12 IPM] OT - Edumail Exasperation
I think I now know what Ros is looking for.
I have a pop3 e-mail account for home that I use on my home computer with Th=
underbird and another at school .. nothing new there but it is better now th=
at I dont use these for my edulist mail. Like others on this list, I resubsc=
ribed using a web based email service (there are many around with ooodles of=
capacity .. gmail shows this thread of 15 messages as single web page). Gra=
dually I have added other subscription and mailing lists, sometimes adding f=
ilters and rules to my home and school e-mail to bounce the messages to the=
web based service and more rules to move mail for my-eyes-only back to its=
proper place. All this rule scripting must add up to a VCE unit somewhere .=
.
Our tech had soooooo much junk mail missed that he created a rule to move al=
l e-mail to a junk folder then other rules to move selected messages back to=
the inbox. We had such a good laugh to see it actually working. I have ofte=
n wondered if I could make better use of the round, empty filing cabinet nex=
t to my desk. ;-)
Regards Roland
On 14/11/06, Meadows, Roslyn M <Meadows.Roslyn.M at edumail.vic.gov.au> wrote:=
mmm ... thanks guys ... lots of food for thought in your suggestions.
I guess everyone is different - to be honest I don't want to mix up my edum=
ail with my home and business email (which I collect via Outlook on a home d=
esktop). Also Outlook can only be accessed from the home computer.
And my other problem is I have 2 school emails - edumail gets all the email=
which is sent to Bentleigh SC teachers (I am on a year's LWOP) plus all the=
edulists I subscribe to, plus other assorted educational/learning emails wh=
ich I send/receive.
Then I have my Lauriston email - which is easy - open Outlook on my Laurist=
on tablet PC and if I am at school I have instant access to all that email,=
plus I DO use the Calendar for every class/meeting/helpdesk duty/yard duty/=
assembly etc - so that is fine. Once you have set up the calendar it is grea=
t! I don't do anything with paper nowadays. And I use the Tasks also for thi=
ngs I have to do. If I am home or on another computer I can access my Lauris=
ton email and calendar via their website.
The problem with edumail is that it is slow...I could send an email with no=
thing in it to myself and it could take half an hour, sometimes I email one=
of the edulists, then someone else may email a similar suggestion, but mine=
won't appear for another 40 minutes or so (and then I look like the doofus!=
!! lol) or I will hit reply, then get sidetracked, and then a blank email hi=
ts the edulists (embarrassing plus) I know I am not the only person this has=
happened to. Also it has a limit on file sizes sent or received, and a limi=
t on how much you can store in the inbox, but I can't find out what these li=
mits are or what percentage of that limit I have used. Also people tell me t=
hey send something to my edumail but I never get it. I just think that it is=
unreliable. Attaching a file takes forever and you can only attach one file=
at a time, received attachments often have to be saved before you can open=
them (now that makes sense eh!! - How do you know whether you want to s! av=
e it when you haven't even seen it!!??!!). The one advantage of edumail is=
its spam free nature.
Anyway the positive of all this is that Peter Thomson had the edumail setup=
s for yahoo, so I can now pull my edumail into there, it still looks as thou=
gh I am sending from edumail, but in fact it comes from yahoo, and I have 20=
0 Mb of storage and a bar graph shows me what percentage of that I have used=
:))
In the meantime I am hoping that gmail will get it happening so that you ca=
n import other emails into it, then we will all have 2 gig email storage, an=
d if that happens I will probably move everything over to my gmail address!!=
Thank you all once again, and cheers
Ros Meadows
Lauriston Girls School
meadowsro at lauriston.vic.edu.au <mailto: meadowsro at lauriston.vic.edu.au <mai=
lto:meadowsro at lauriston.vic.edu.au> >
meadows.roslyn.m at edumail.vic.gov.au
Home computers are being called upon to perform many new functions, includi=
ng the consumption of homework formerly eaten by the dog.
Doug Larson
________________________________
From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Laurie Savage
Sent: Tue 11/14/2006 10:45 PM
To: ipm at edulists.com.au
Subject: Re: [Year 12 IPM] OT - Edumail Exasperation
I keep playing with Outlook and then find it won't do something or other
I've always taken for granted in a mail client. I tend to use
Thunderbird on my WinXP machine but on Linux I use
Mutt/Fetchmail/Procmail/Sendmail! Just call me old fashioned but I love
text based apps (speed+) :)
The Thunderbird features I find most useful are the filtering tools
combined with labelling. Maybe you can do that with Outlook but I never
found it very configurable - as for importing mail from Outlook Express
into Outlook - I needed to use Eudora's import/export tools!
Evolution is too Outlook-like for me but I do like its virtual folders
which have been picked up in Thunderbird as saved dynamic searches.
To return to the original thread - our mail configuration doesn't delete
ALL the records from pop3.edumail so I have needed to visit EDumail's web
interface to do an annual cleanout.
Laurie
On 2006-11-14 or thereabouts, Alexakos, Zach Z < alexakos.zach.z at edumail.vi=
c.gov.au <mailto:alexakos.zach.z at edumail.vic.gov.au> > wrote:
> I'm surprised Thunderbird hasn't been mentioned. It has very effective
> spam filters, not that you need it with edumail, and the security,
> backup, interface and reliability hits many other programs for six.
>
> Eudora is quite a good alternative as well.
>
> Zach Alexakos
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au]
> On Behalf Of Jim Bunn
> Sent: Tuesday, 14 November 2006 9:46 PM
> To: 'Year 12 Information Technology Processing and
> ManagementTeachers'Mailing List'
> Subject: RE: [Year 12 IPM] OT - Edumail Exasperation
>
> Cameron,
>
> I set up an email account on my laptop using Microsoft Outlook. I used
> the
> POP3 (port 110) incoming, and SMTP (port 25) outgoing mail servers. When
> setting up the email account I put in my edumail username and password
> in
> the login details section, and ticked the remember password check box.
> The
> email address is my edumail email address. I called the account 'School'
> for
> obvious reasons. It works like a charm. All I do is open Outlook every
> morning. As per most people I don't like Microsoft very much, but I do
> think
> Outlook is a quality mail program.
>
> Hope this explains it,
> Jim
>
>
>
> Jim Bunn
> CCNA CCAI ITE1
> Technology Coordinator
> Hampton Park Secondary College
> Victoria Australia
> 8795 9400
>
> bunn.jim.c at edumail.vic.gov.au
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au]
> On
> Behalf Of Cameron Bell
> Sent: Tuesday, 14 November 2006 9:24 PM
> To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
> Teachers'Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IPM] OT - Edumail Exasperation
>
> Can you run this by me again?
> Outlook is just a client, not a mail service. Outlook accesses edumail.
> Cameron
>
> Jim Bunn wrote:
>>
>> I've used Outlook for over a year now and have all my other mail
>> directed through Outlook. It is excellent. I never get any spam and
>> NEVER go to edumail.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>>
>> Jim Bunn
>> CCNA CCAI ITE1
>> Technology Coordinator
>> Hampton Park Secondary College
>> Victoria Australia
>>
>> 8795 9400
>>
>> bunn.jim.c at edumail.vic.gov.au <mailto:bunn.jim.c at edumail.vic.gov.au >
>>
>>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au
>> [mailto:ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au] *On Behalf Of *Meadows, Roslyn M
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 14 November 2006 8:29 PM
>> *To:* Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
>> Teachers'Mailing List
>> *Subject:* RE: [Year 12 IPM] OT - Edumail Exasperation
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Peter,
>>
>> Thanks for your advice. I had tried pop and pop2 but not pop3!!!! I
>> have now got my edumail into yahoo, which is great and means I don't
>> have to deal with edumail getting full and therefore not receiving
>> emails, but yahoo only gives 200MB.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have several contacts who use incredimail, but can you access it
>> from the web? For example - when I am at home or school etc? I have to
>
>> keep my main email on my desktop at home (it's the business computer),
>
>> have a laptop for school, which is set up to use outlook for school
>> mail (Lauriston mail until 12/12/06), and edumail. I also have a
>> gmail, and apparently one of the most requested features for gmail
>> (apart from 'save draft') is to be able to collect other pop mail.
>> When that happens my life will be complete!!! :))
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks once again, and may the sun shine on you !!
>>
>>
>>
>> Ros Meadows
>>
>> Lauriston Girls School
>>
>> meadowsro at lauriston.vic.edu.au <mailto: meadowsro at lauriston.vic.edu.au>
>>
>> meadows.roslyn.m at edumail.vic.gov.au
>> <mailto: meadows.roslyn.m at edumail.vic.gov.au>
>>
>>
>>
>> Home computers are being called upon to perform many new functions,
>> including the consumption of homework formerly eaten by the dog.
>> **Doug Larson**
>>
>>
>>
>>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Peter and Di
>> *Sent:* Tue 11/14/2006 6:28 PM
>> *To:* Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
>> Teachers'Mailing List
>> *Subject:* Re: [Year 12 IPM] OT - Edumail Exasperation
>>
>> Hi Ros,
>>
>>
>>
>> I use "Incredimail" and "pull" all my mail account into the one place,
>
>> including Edumail and Hotmail.
>>
>> The setup for Edumail is; Incoming mail pop3.edumail.vic.gov.au
>> (you were close) port 110
>>
>> Outgoing
>> mail smtp.edumail.vic.gov.au port 25 which I think are the
> defaults.
>>
>>
>>
>> As an aside, I can reply to //any// of my emails from //any// of my
>> emails simply by selecting "From" on a toolbar.
>>
>>
>>
>> Hope this helps
>>
>> Peter Thomson
>>
>> recently retired (that's for Robert Hind)
>>
>> Cheltenham Secondary College
>>
>> /-------Original Message-------/
>>
>>
>>
>> */From:/* Meadows, Roslyn M
><mailto: Meadows.Roslyn.M at edumail.vic.gov.au <mailto:Meadows.Roslyn.M at edum=
ail.vic.gov.au> >
>>
>> */Date:/* 11/14/06 14:32:33
>>
>> */To:/* IPM List <mailto:ipm at edulists.com.au>
>>
>> */Subject:/* [Year 12 IPM] OT - Edumail Exasperation
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi everyone
>>
>>
>>
>> I would like to become divorced from Edumail, and go for custody of
>> our 675 children (ie my inbox in edumail)
>>
>>
>>
>> * Roland has the great idea of using gmail, and I used to use
>> Yahoo mail and import my edumail into it, but I have some
>> questions relating to the whole process.
>>
>> * The old version of yahoo still supports (I think) migrating my
>> edumail into it - but whereas it used to work it no longer does
>> - does anyone know the pop address to use (I thought it was
>> pop.edumail.vic.gov.au)
>>
>> * How can I do this in gmail? Does anyone know how to import other
>> pop mail into gmail - if in fact it can be done? I would like to
>> avoid using too many email addresses for education related
>> stuff. gmail will hold 2 gig of mail whereas yahoo holds 200 mb,
>> so obviously gmail would be preferable. I also need to be able
>> to get onto my edumail wherever I am (ie via the web)
>>
>> * What is the size limit of edumail folders and how can I find out
>> how much space I have left? You used to be able to do this until
>> edumail went to a MS Exchange server.
>>
>> * If I am near my capacity in edumail do I get a warning email, or
>> does it just stop delivering email to your inbox?
>>
>> Any help would be much appreciated - thanks
>>
>>
>>
>> Ros Meadows (being psychologically abused by edumail)
>>
>> Lauriston Girls School
>>
>> meadowsro at lauriston.vic.edu.au <mailto:meadowsro at lauriston.vic.edu.au >
>>
>> meadows.roslyn.m at edumail.vic.gov.au
>> <mailto:meadows.roslyn.m at edumail.vic.gov.au >
>>
>>
>>
>> Home computers are being called upon to perform many new functions,
>> including the consumption of homework formerly eaten by the dog.
>> **Doug Larson**
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