[Year 12 IPM] OT - Edumail Exasperation
Laurie Savage
sav at pvgc.vic.edu.au
Tue Nov 14 22:45:56 EST 2006
I keep playing with Outlook and then find it won't do something or other
I've always taken for granted in a mail client. I tend to use
Thunderbird on my WinXP machine but on Linux I use
Mutt/Fetchmail/Procmail/Sendmail! Just call me old fashioned but I love
text based apps (speed+) :)
The Thunderbird features I find most useful are the filtering tools
combined with labelling. Maybe you can do that with Outlook but I never
found it very configurable - as for importing mail from Outlook Express
into Outlook - I needed to use Eudora's import/export tools!
Evolution is too Outlook-like for me but I do like its virtual folders
which have been picked up in Thunderbird as saved dynamic searches.
To return to the original thread - our mail configuration doesn't delete
ALL the records from pop3.edumail so I have needed to visit EDumail's web
interface to do an annual cleanout.
Laurie
On 2006-11-14 or thereabouts, Alexakos, Zach Z <alexakos.zach.z at edumail.vic.gov.au> wrote:
> I'm surprised Thunderbird hasn't been mentioned. It has very effective
> spam filters, not that you need it with edumail, and the security,
> backup, interface and reliability hits many other programs for six.
>
> Eudora is quite a good alternative as well.
>
> Zach Alexakos
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au]
> On Behalf Of Jim Bunn
> Sent: Tuesday, 14 November 2006 9:46 PM
> To: 'Year 12 Information Technology Processing and
> ManagementTeachers'Mailing List'
> Subject: RE: [Year 12 IPM] OT - Edumail Exasperation
>
> Cameron,
>
> I set up an email account on my laptop using Microsoft Outlook. I used
> the
> POP3 (port 110) incoming, and SMTP (port 25) outgoing mail servers. When
> setting up the email account I put in my edumail username and password
> in
> the login details section, and ticked the remember password check box.
> The
> email address is my edumail email address. I called the account 'School'
> for
> obvious reasons. It works like a charm. All I do is open Outlook every
> morning. As per most people I don't like Microsoft very much, but I do
> think
> Outlook is a quality mail program.
>
> Hope this explains it,
> Jim
>
>
>
> Jim Bunn
> CCNA CCAI ITE1
> Technology Coordinator
> Hampton Park Secondary College
> Victoria Australia
> 8795 9400
>
> bunn.jim.c at edumail.vic.gov.au
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au]
> On
> Behalf Of Cameron Bell
> Sent: Tuesday, 14 November 2006 9:24 PM
> To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
> Teachers'Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IPM] OT - Edumail Exasperation
>
> Can you run this by me again?
> Outlook is just a client, not a mail service. Outlook accesses edumail.
> Cameron
>
> Jim Bunn wrote:
>>
>> I've used Outlook for over a year now and have all my other mail
>> directed through Outlook. It is excellent. I never get any spam and
>> NEVER go to edumail.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>>
>> Jim Bunn
>> CCNA CCAI ITE1
>> Technology Coordinator
>> Hampton Park Secondary College
>> Victoria Australia
>>
>> 8795 9400
>>
>> bunn.jim.c at edumail.vic.gov.au <mailto:bunn.jim.c at edumail.vic.gov.au>
>>
>>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au
>> [mailto:ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au] *On Behalf Of *Meadows, Roslyn M
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 14 November 2006 8:29 PM
>> *To:* Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
>> Teachers'Mailing List
>> *Subject:* RE: [Year 12 IPM] OT - Edumail Exasperation
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Peter,
>>
>> Thanks for your advice. I had tried pop and pop2 but not pop3!!!! I
>> have now got my edumail into yahoo, which is great and means I don't
>> have to deal with edumail getting full and therefore not receiving
>> emails, but yahoo only gives 200MB.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have several contacts who use incredimail, but can you access it
>> from the web? For example - when I am at home or school etc? I have to
>
>> keep my main email on my desktop at home (it's the business computer),
>
>> have a laptop for school, which is set up to use outlook for school
>> mail (Lauriston mail until 12/12/06), and edumail. I also have a
>> gmail, and apparently one of the most requested features for gmail
>> (apart from 'save draft') is to be able to collect other pop mail.
>> When that happens my life will be complete!!! :))
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks once again, and may the sun shine on you !!
>>
>>
>>
>> Ros Meadows
>>
>> Lauriston Girls School
>>
>> meadowsro at lauriston.vic.edu.au <mailto:meadowsro at lauriston.vic.edu.au>
>>
>> meadows.roslyn.m at edumail.vic.gov.au
>> <mailto:meadows.roslyn.m at edumail.vic.gov.au>
>>
>>
>>
>> Home computers are being called upon to perform many new functions,
>> including the consumption of homework formerly eaten by the dog.
>> **Doug Larson**
>>
>>
>>
>>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Peter and Di
>> *Sent:* Tue 11/14/2006 6:28 PM
>> *To:* Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
>> Teachers'Mailing List
>> *Subject:* Re: [Year 12 IPM] OT - Edumail Exasperation
>>
>> Hi Ros,
>>
>>
>>
>> I use "Incredimail" and "pull" all my mail account into the one place,
>
>> including Edumail and Hotmail.
>>
>> The setup for Edumail is; Incoming mail pop3.edumail.vic.gov.au
>> (you were close) port 110
>>
>> Outgoing
>> mail smtp.edumail.vic.gov.au port 25 which I think are the
> defaults.
>>
>>
>>
>> As an aside, I can reply to //any// of my emails from //any// of my
>> emails simply by selecting "From" on a toolbar.
>>
>>
>>
>> Hope this helps
>>
>> Peter Thomson
>>
>> recently retired (that's for Robert Hind)
>>
>> Cheltenham Secondary College
>>
>> /-------Original Message-------/
>>
>>
>>
>> */From:/* Meadows, Roslyn M
><mailto:Meadows.Roslyn.M at edumail.vic.gov.au>
>>
>> */Date:/* 11/14/06 14:32:33
>>
>> */To:/* IPM List <mailto:ipm at edulists.com.au>
>>
>> */Subject:/* [Year 12 IPM] OT - Edumail Exasperation
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi everyone
>>
>>
>>
>> I would like to become divorced from Edumail, and go for custody of
>> our 675 children (ie my inbox in edumail)
>>
>>
>>
>> * Roland has the great idea of using gmail, and I used to use
>> Yahoo mail and import my edumail into it, but I have some
>> questions relating to the whole process.
>>
>> * The old version of yahoo still supports (I think) migrating my
>> edumail into it - but whereas it used to work it no longer does
>> - does anyone know the pop address to use (I thought it was
>> pop.edumail.vic.gov.au)
>>
>> * How can I do this in gmail? Does anyone know how to import other
>> pop mail into gmail - if in fact it can be done? I would like to
>> avoid using too many email addresses for education related
>> stuff. gmail will hold 2 gig of mail whereas yahoo holds 200 mb,
>> so obviously gmail would be preferable. I also need to be able
>> to get onto my edumail wherever I am (ie via the web)
>>
>> * What is the size limit of edumail folders and how can I find out
>> how much space I have left? You used to be able to do this until
>> edumail went to a MS Exchange server.
>>
>> * If I am near my capacity in edumail do I get a warning email, or
>> does it just stop delivering email to your inbox?
>>
>> Any help would be much appreciated - thanks
>>
>>
>>
>> Ros Meadows (being psychologically abused by edumail)
>>
>> Lauriston Girls School
>>
>> meadowsro at lauriston.vic.edu.au <mailto:meadowsro at lauriston.vic.edu.au>
>>
>> meadows.roslyn.m at edumail.vic.gov.au
>> <mailto:meadows.roslyn.m at edumail.vic.gov.au>
>>
>>
>>
>> Home computers are being called upon to perform many new functions,
>> including the consumption of homework formerly eaten by the dog.
>> **Doug Larson**
>>
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