[Year 12 IPM] OT - Edumail Exasperation

Cameron Bell bell.cameron.p at edumail.vic.gov.au
Tue Nov 14 22:13:09 EST 2006


So you *are* going to edumail, just via outlook, not the web. Your 
comment that you never go to Edumail threw me.
Outlook is OK, but I think it is too powerful (bloated?) for just email 
use.  The very powerful groupware features of it, the calendar 
scheduling etc are just not utilised enough in schools (I've been in) to 
justify it. The connectivity with mobile phones etc is extremely useful 
and once I've laboriously entered my timetable into it I find that being 
able to download it into my phone is great.  (Got to explore a method of 
importing First Class timetables into Outlook!)
But, for an efficient, *lightweight* email client that works beautifully 
and is cross-platform, you can't beat Thunderbird. I have found that to 
be the best solution since I need to switch from Linux to Windows 
occasionally on the laptop. (Tried Evolution - didn't like it)
Cheers
Cameron





Jim Bunn wrote:
> Cameron,
>
> I set up an email account on my laptop using Microsoft Outlook. I used the
> POP3 (port 110) incoming, and SMTP (port 25) outgoing mail servers. When
> setting up the email account I put in my edumail username and password in
> the login details section, and ticked the remember password check box.  The
> email address is my edumail email address. I called the account 'School' for
> obvious reasons. It works like a charm. All I do is open Outlook every
> morning. As per most people I don't like Microsoft very much, but I do think
> Outlook is a quality mail program.
>
> Hope this explains it,
> Jim
>
>
>
> Jim Bunn
> CCNA CCAI ITE1
> Technology Coordinator
> Hampton Park Secondary College
> Victoria  Australia
> 8795 9400
>
> bunn.jim.c at edumail.vic.gov.au 
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au] On
> Behalf Of Cameron Bell
> Sent: Tuesday, 14 November 2006 9:24 PM
> To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
> Teachers'Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IPM] OT - Edumail Exasperation
>
> Can you run this by me again?
> Outlook is just a client, not a mail service. Outlook accesses edumail.
> Cameron
>
> Jim Bunn wrote:
>   
>> I've used Outlook for over a year now and have all my other mail 
>> directed through Outlook. It is excellent. I never get any spam and 
>> NEVER go to edumail.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>  
>>
>> Jim Bunn
>> CCNA CCAI ITE1
>> Technology Coordinator
>> Hampton Park Secondary College
>> Victoria  Australia
>>
>> 8795 9400
>>
>> bunn.jim.c at edumail.vic.gov.au <mailto:bunn.jim.c at edumail.vic.gov.au>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au 
>> [mailto:ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au] *On Behalf Of *Meadows, Roslyn M
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 14 November 2006 8:29 PM
>> *To:* Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management 
>> Teachers'Mailing List
>> *Subject:* RE: [Year 12 IPM] OT - Edumail Exasperation
>>
>>  
>>
>> Hi Peter,
>>
>> Thanks for your advice. I had tried pop and pop2 but not pop3!!!! I 
>> have now got my edumail into yahoo, which is great and means I don't 
>> have to deal with edumail getting full and therefore not receiving 
>> emails, but yahoo only gives 200MB.
>>
>>  
>>
>> I have several contacts who use incredimail, but can you access it 
>> from the web? For example - when I am at home or school etc? I have to 
>> keep my main email on my desktop at home (it's the business computer), 
>> have a laptop for school, which is set up to use outlook for school 
>> mail (Lauriston mail until 12/12/06), and edumail. I also have a 
>> gmail, and apparently one of the most requested features for gmail 
>> (apart from 'save draft') is to be able to collect other pop mail. 
>> When that happens my life will be complete!!! :))
>>
>>  
>>
>> Thanks once again, and may the sun shine on you !!
>>
>>  
>>
>> Ros Meadows
>>
>> Lauriston Girls School
>>
>> meadowsro at lauriston.vic.edu.au <mailto:meadowsro at lauriston.vic.edu.au>
>>
>> meadows.roslyn.m at edumail.vic.gov.au 
>> <mailto:meadows.roslyn.m at edumail.vic.gov.au>
>>
>>  
>>
>> Home computers are being called upon to perform many new functions, 
>> including the consumption of homework formerly eaten by the dog.
>> **Doug Larson**
>>
>>  
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Peter and Di
>> *Sent:* Tue 11/14/2006 6:28 PM
>> *To:* Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management 
>> Teachers'Mailing List
>> *Subject:* Re: [Year 12 IPM] OT - Edumail Exasperation
>>
>> Hi Ros,
>>
>>  
>>
>> I use "Incredimail" and "pull" all my mail account into the one place, 
>> including Edumail and Hotmail.
>>
>> The setup for Edumail is; Incoming mail     pop3.edumail.vic.gov.au  
>> (you were close) port 110
>>
>>                                             Outgoing 
>> mail    smtp.edumail.vic.gov.au port 25 which I think are the defaults.
>>
>>  
>>
>> As an aside, I can reply to //any// of my emails from //any// of my 
>> emails simply by selecting "From" on a toolbar.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Hope this helps
>>
>> Peter Thomson
>>
>> recently retired (that's for Robert Hind)
>>
>> Cheltenham Secondary College
>>
>> /-------Original Message-------/
>>
>>  
>>
>> */From:/* Meadows, Roslyn M <mailto:Meadows.Roslyn.M at edumail.vic.gov.au>
>>
>> */Date:/* 11/14/06 14:32:33
>>
>> */To:/* IPM List <mailto:ipm at edulists.com.au>
>>
>> */Subject:/* [Year 12 IPM] OT - Edumail Exasperation
>>
>>  
>>
>> Hi everyone
>>
>>  
>>
>> I would like to become divorced from Edumail, and go for custody of 
>> our 675 children (ie my inbox in edumail)
>>
>>  
>>
>>     * Roland has the great idea of using gmail, and I used to use
>>       Yahoo mail and import my edumail into it, but I have some
>>       questions relating to the whole process.
>>
>>     * The old version of yahoo still supports (I think) migrating my
>>       edumail into it - but whereas it used to work it no longer does
>>       - does anyone know the pop address to use (I thought it was
>>       pop.edumail.vic.gov.au)
>>
>>     * How can I do this in gmail? Does anyone know how to import other
>>       pop mail into gmail - if in fact it can be done? I would like to
>>       avoid using too many email addresses for education related
>>       stuff. gmail will hold 2 gig of mail whereas yahoo holds 200 mb,
>>       so obviously gmail would be preferable. I also need to be able
>>       to get onto my edumail wherever I am (ie via the web)
>>
>>     * What is the size limit of edumail folders and how can I find out
>>       how much space I have left? You used to be able to do this until
>>       edumail went to a MS Exchange server.
>>
>>     * If I am near my capacity in edumail do I get a warning email, or
>>       does it just stop delivering email to your inbox?
>>
>> Any help would be much appreciated - thanks
>>
>>  
>>
>> Ros Meadows (being psychologically abused by edumail)
>>
>> Lauriston Girls School
>>
>> meadowsro at lauriston.vic.edu.au <mailto:meadowsro at lauriston.vic.edu.au>
>>
>> meadows.roslyn.m at edumail.vic.gov.au 
>> <mailto:meadows.roslyn.m at edumail.vic.gov.au>
>>
>>  
>>
>> Home computers are being called upon to perform many new functions, 
>> including the consumption of homework formerly eaten by the dog.
>> **Doug Larson**
>>
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