[Year 12 IPM] OT: Girls in IT (was LAN gaming)
Charmaine Taylor
tigeroz at alphalink.com.au
Mon Mar 13 21:10:06 EST 2006
These are useful sites too:
http://www.mmv.vic.gov.au/Home
http://www.mmv.vic.gov.au/WomeninICT
http://www.vicictforwomen.com.au
Charmaine Taylor
Sunbury Downs College
Donna Benjamin wrote:
>Pia Waugh - Vice President of Linux Australia recently spoke at the
>following event... she says a similar event is being organised in
>Melbourne... so I thought this might be of interest...
>
>http://gogirlwa.org.au/index.php
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>On Wed, 2006-03-01 at 22:52 +1100, Diane Peat wrote:
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>>Hello everyone
>>In answer to Margaret's query about Computer Clubs, I hate to say we tried
>>but had no takers, even among the Year 7 students!
>>They just don't see it as 'cool'.
>>
>>Diane Peat
>>Firbank Grammar School
>>BRIGHTON VIC 3186
>>Tel (03) 9591 5188
>>Email dpeat at firbank.vic.edu.au
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au]On
>>Behalf Of Lawson, Margaret
>>Sent: Wednesday, 1 March 2006 11:42 AM
>>To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
>>Teachers'MailingList
>>Subject: RE: [Year 12 IPM] OT : LAN gaming
>>
>>Keep the suggestions coming!
>>
>>We are grappling with the impact of multiplayer networked games in the
>>classroom ... and how to harness that power for good and not evil!
>>
>>Are there any Girls schools that run computer clubs?
>>
>>Margaret
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au]
>>On Behalf Of Keith Richardson
>>Sent: Tuesday, 28 February 2006 7:50 PM
>>To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
>>Teachers'Mailing List
>>Subject: RE: [Year 12 IPM] OT : LAN gaming
>>
>>Stephen - I totally disagree!
>>If we carried your hypothesis to its logical conclusion, the only sports
>>games we would allow on the sport field or in the playground would be
>><<"games" that deliver quality educational outcomes>>.
>>Computing, reading, running, catching, argueing, debating are all
>>legitimate human activities. Get a life, I say!
>>To me passion is everything - if people are passionately motivated, you
>>can climb mountains with them...
>>Back to you, my friend!
>>Keith
>>
>>
>>On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 20:28:59 +1100, "Stephen Digby"
>><digby.stephen.p at edumail.vic.gov.au> said:
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>>>Suggest that only "games" that deliver quality educational outcomes be
>>>allowed in schools - full stop.
>>>We go out of our way to make the distinction between the legitimate
>>>
>>>
>>use
>>
>>
>>>of computers in homes for a variety of purposes (from sexual
>>>gratification, through entertainment, to business and often some small
>>>education component) and the special use of computers in
>>>school for exclusively education purposes.
>>>
>>>Children arrive at school with a sense that the "natural" use of
>>>computers (and TV !) is entertainment. Every time we allow this
>>>within school, we accept that this is true and that educational
>>>activities are inherently second rate and can only be sustained with
>>>extrinsic motivators or punishments.
>>>
>>>I have the same opposition to the short-sighted use of videos,
>>>entertaining excursion and being "let off" early as rewards for good
>>>work.
>>>They all add to the same perception that education is drudgery. That
>>>
>>>
>>all
>>
>>
>>>gain can be achieved without any pain. That perseverance
>>>is sometimes regrettably necessary in some subjects (probably because
>>>
>>>
>>the
>>
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>>>teacher is not much good, or the content is old fashioned)
>>>etc etc.
>>>
>>>By all means involve students in game analysis and design which will
>>>involve playing in a disciplined, and reflective manner. But
>>>make sure that the games analysed, designed and played have deep
>>>intellectual content and preferably significant cultural
>>>significance.
>>>
>>>Students ARE challenged by playing war games - everything from chess,
>>>through RISK to historical battle simulations. They can learn
>>>excellent thinking skills, interpersonal strategies and a great deal
>>>
>>>
>>of
>>
>>
>>>history IF the experience is guided by a good teacher (or
>>>parent).
>>>
>>>"Fun, amusement, entertainment" are often by products of a well
>>>
>>>
>>designed
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>>>educational activity - they should never be a core
>>>objective - even at lunchtime.
>>>
>>>As teachers, we can always invent some jargon filled rationalisation
>>>
>>>
>>for
>>
>>
>>>what we often know to be capitulation to a culture of
>>>"little brain".
>>>If they are to play LAN games, make it "serious", make it challenging,
>>>make it - make it educational..... Can you do it ?
>>>Honestly ? If not, don't.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>========================================================================
>>==============
>>
>>
>>>Stephen Digby, Learning Technology Manager
>>>digby.stephen.p at edumail.vic.gov.au
>>>Cheltenham Secondary College www.cheltsec.vic.edu.au Ph: 613 955 55
>>>
>>>
>>955
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>>
>>>Fx: 9555 8617
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>========================================================================
>>==============
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>>>
>>>We Trained hard.....but it seemed that every time we were beginning to
>>>form up into teams, we would be re-organised... I was to
>>>learn later in life that we tend to meet any new situation by
>>>re-organising....and a wonderful method it can be for creating the
>>>illusion of progress while producing confusion, inefficiency and
>>>demoralisation. Petronius 210 BC
>>>
>>>
>>> _____
>>>
>>>From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au]
>>>
>>>
>>On
>>
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>>>Behalf Of WEIR Andrew
>>>Sent: Monday, 27 February 2006 7:15 PM
>>>To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
>>>Teachers'Mailing List
>>>Subject: RE: [Year 12 IPM] OT : LAN gaming
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Andrew
>>>Thanks for that we have started to investigate games without a
>>>
>>>
>>violence
>>
>>
>>>aspect straight after i sent the email the students involved
>>>understand the issues with perception of violence.
>>>
>>>Andrew
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Andrew Shortell
>>>Sent: Mon 2/27/2006 3:32 PM
>>>To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
>>>Teachers'MailingList
>>>Subject: RE: [Year 12 IPM] OT : LAN gaming
>>>
>>>Andrew,
>>>Counter strike is a game that encourages a lot of noise from the
>>>participants. (I really mean a lot.) The game server needs its
>>>
>>>
>>firewall
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>>>disabled. The game runs quicker on a dedicated machine.
>>>
>>>Questions I would ask include:
>>>Parental permission ?
>>>Encouraging violence?
>>>Against the ethos of TC College - religious affiliation etc,
>>>
>>>
>>biblically
>>
>>
>>>inclined parents etc
>>>Bad reaction from RE teachers?
>>>
>>>The fact that it will be almost entirely boys .. this is not a girl
>>>friendly environment ...
>>>
>>>I endured it on Wednesday afternoons last year --- some loved it, some
>>>
>>>
>>>grew bored
>>>
>>>LAN gaming is big, there must be better ones out there than CS
>>>Good luck
>>>
>>>Andrew Shortell
>>>Braemar College
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au]
>>>
>>>
>>>On Behalf Of WEIR Andrew
>>>Sent: Monday, 27 February 2006 3:07 PM
>>>To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
>>>Teachers'MailingList
>>>Subject: [Year 12 IPM] OT : LAN gaming
>>>
>>>Apologies for the off topic question
>>>
>>>Some of my students have expressed interest in wanting to run a lunch
>>>time LAN party using the schools network before we rule it out or go
>>>ahead with it I wanted to see if any other schools had actually done
>>>
>>>
>>it
>>
>>
>>>and what issues we might face.
>>>
>>>We have already begun to look at the following aspects;
>>>Game Rating and audience.
>>>Licenses
>>>Installation
>>>
>>>The students wanted to use Counter strike. There idea is charge a
>>>
>>>
>>small
>>
>>
>>>admission fee and donate the money to charity.
>>>
>>>Any help or advice would be great.
>>>Andrew
>>>
>>>Andrew Weir
>>>Head Of Information Technology
>>>VK3HFT
>>>Thomas Carr College
>>>35 Thomas Carr College Tarneit
>>>
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