[Year 12 IPM] ITA ("IPM 2007") summary

Nick Axaris na at willihigh.vic.edu.au
Mon Mar 6 10:34:48 EST 2006


I gave my opinions 2 years ago and entrusted my colleagues to take heed
as they promised
Guess what?
I find your line of questioning rather provocative and can understand 
Zach's reply.

Robert Timmer-Arends wrote:
> Nick, Zach, and Laurie
>
> how about by the end of March you all write a detailed alternative study
> design - tell us what it should contain in some detail, not just headlines.
> Make sure it's coherent and covers at least four semesters units.
>
> I'd like to hear how you plan to save IT
>
> Regards
> Robert T-A
> Brighton SC
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nick Axaris" <na at willihigh.vic.edu.au>
> To: "Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management Teachers'
> Mailing List" <ipm at edulists.com.au>
> Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 2:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IPM] ITA ("IPM 2007") summary
>
>
>   
>> Apologies to anyone who may be offended by my "egghead" and "crud"
>> comments I retract them as they were said in the heat of the moment.
>>
>>
>> Don't take this personally.
>> The course as I read it is a rehash of the old with a few new added bits.
>> it needed a big spruce up and I'm afraid it hasn't happened.
>> The bottom line is bums on seats and we won't see that.
>> Students have moved past databases.
>> THIS is why vet courses are so popular.
>> quote: "The VET courses provide a
>> very different experience for students, and we did not want to replicate
>> that" end quote:
>>
>> There was no need to replicate the courses but after our debates on this
>>     
> forum we should at least have incorporated elements from  them so that
> student interest would be there.
>   
>> Who are we writing the courses for?
>> the students or the traditionalists?
>> I maintain that the course should be renamed IT office
>>     
> administration.(ITOA)
>   
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Adrian Janson wrote:
>>     
>>> When writing a course from the ground up - and this IS what we did, it
>>>       
> is
>   
>>> important to consider those elements that are core elements of our
>>> discipline.  We have included these - and more.  The VET courses provide
>>>       
> a
>   
>>> very different experience for students, and we did not want to replicate
>>> that.  The study design affords a wide range of applications and tasks
>>>       
> to be
>   
>>> completed - and it is up to us to write coursework to fit into our
>>>       
> schools
>   
>>> and tailored for our particular students.  I for one, will gladly post
>>>       
> my
>   
>>> Adrian Janson
>>> Melbourne High School
>>>
>>>
>>>       
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