[elearning] Making the Case for Student Controlled Devices - iPads in Education (James Lee)

Roland Gesthuizen rgesthuizen at gmail.com
Mon Apr 2 23:40:29 EST 2012


Thank you James, Sue and Geoffrey, some good replies and ideas to reflect
upon. :-)

Regards Roland

On 27 March 2012 09:15, Lee, James q <lee.james.q at edumail.vic.gov.au> wrote:

> Prohibition never has, and never will work.  People always find a way
> around restrictions, and in fact acts as a kind of reverse psychology (you
> want what you can't have (access to) ).
>
> I believe that rather than controlling the usage of technology, we should
> be teaching good habits on how to use it appropriately and effectively.  I
> tell students that using the school computers is a privilege, not a right;
> that ICT can be taught without computers if need be, and thus should show
> respect using the equipment. If students want to use something
> questionable, if they ask permission first and can explain a good rationale
> for using it, then I allow it. This is better than a blanket ban on certain
> websites and digital equipment, and allows greater flexibility in teaching
> and learning. It also reflects more real life practices, since what is to
> stop students accessing the resources at home (ever told the student "oh
> facebook's/youtube's blocked, so you should download the facebook
> photo/youtube clip you want to work on when you get home, then bring it
> back on a usb stick next class?". Does that make any sense at all?)
>
> James Lee
> http://www.mrlee.it
> VCE VET Printing & Graphic Arts (Desktop Publishing)
> MIddle Years ICT, Web Design & Game Programming
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>   1. Making the Case for Student Controlled Devices - iPads    in
>      Education (Roland Gesthuizen)
>   2. Making the Case for Student Controlled Devices - iPads    in
>      Education (Roland Gesthuizen)
>   3. Re: Making the Case for Student Controlled Devices - iPads        in
>      Education (Hutchison, Geoffrey G)
>   4. Re: Making the Case for Student Controlled Devices - iPads        in
>      Education (Arnott, Suzanne S)
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> The notion of ?control for control?s sake? is alive and well in many
> schools.
>
> Rather like teaching someone to express themselves through painting but
> only allowing the use of, say, 4 colours.
>
> I still have vivid memories in primary school of being belted across the
> knuckles for daring to use coloured chalk (yes I know, I?m that old, alas)
> on my chalk board when we were told to only use white; couldn?t see why. ?
>
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> elearning-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Roland Gesthuizen
> Sent: Monday, 26 March 2012 5:41 PM
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> iPads in Education
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>
> I have to agree that our desire to control the use of all technology
> sounds a deeper problem. Exactly who are we making decisions based on the
> needs of?  Regards Roland
>
> Quotes:
>
> Making the Case for Student Controlled Devices - iPads in Education<
> http://diigo.com/0p332>
>
>  *   It's time to let go of the notion that we need to control student
> behavior. It's time to realize that we cannot and should not dictate the
> manner in which students learn. One area where the desire for control is
> clearly manifested is our use of technology in school.
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> Hehehe I was looking for the ?like? button?. I have nothing to add apart
> from I am all for releasing control?. It does take people out of their
> comfort zone, hehehe?.
> Disruptive teaching and learning
> Love it
>
> From: elearning-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:
> elearning-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Hutchison, Geoffrey G
> Sent: Monday, 26 March 2012 5:50 PM
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> Subject: Re: [elearning] Making the Case for Student Controlled Devices -
> iPads in Education
>
> The notion of ?control for control?s sake? is alive and well in many
> schools.
>
> Rather like teaching someone to express themselves through painting but
> only allowing the use of, say, 4 colours.
>
> I still have vivid memories in primary school of being belted across the
> knuckles for daring to use coloured chalk (yes I know, I?m that old, alas)
> on my chalk board when we were told to only use white; couldn?t see why. ?
>
> From: elearning-bounces at edulists.com.au<mailto:
> elearning-bounces at edulists.com.au> [mailto:
> elearning-bounces at edulists.com.au]<mailto:[mailto:
> elearning-bounces at edulists.com.au]> On Behalf Of Roland Gesthuizen
> Sent: Monday, 26 March 2012 5:41 PM
> To: elearning at edulists.com.au<mailto:elearning at edulists.com.au>
> Subject: [elearning] Making the Case for Student Controlled Devices -
> iPads in Education
>
>
>
> I have to agree that our desire to control the use of all technology
> sounds a deeper problem. Exactly who are we making decisions based on the
> needs of?  Regards Roland
>
> Quotes:
>
> Making the Case for Student Controlled Devices - iPads in Education<
> http://diigo.com/0p332>
>
>  *   It's time to let go of the notion that we need to control student
> behavior. It's time to realize that we cannot and should not dictate the
> manner in which students learn. One area where the desire for control is
> clearly manifested is our use of technology in school.
>
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