[Design and Technology] destech Digest, Vol 183, Issue 42
Brendan D'Arcy
B.DArcy at kardinia.vic.edu.au
Wed Aug 12 06:03:43 UTC 2020
Yes, I've had some very disgruntled parents. Some of whom have paid extra for kids materials but projects won't get finished. That cant be helped I guess.
Students are really disappointed. But at least they are healthy!
But surely we can find out what we are aiming for soon???
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I am starting to get emails from parents now wanting to know why an announcement hasnt been made!
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> Well put Stuart, my thoughts as well.
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> On 12 Aug 2020, at 12:51 pm, Whitehouse, Stuart <swhitehouse at stmichaels.vic.edu.au<mailto:swhitehouse at stmichaels.vic.edu.au>> wrote:
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> * Access to facilities, staff, materials and time will differ across schools
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> * Increased challenges of social distancing and assisting with practical tasks will present real OH&S risk.
> * Increased pressure and urgency with reduced timelines will also present increased OH&S risk to both staff and students.
> * Restrictions on supplies, materials and deliveries will have a huge impact on when production may start disadvantaging students even more.
> * Inequity.
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> My principal said in her latest email
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> 'I know that there may be some subjects for whom it will be particularly difficult to conduct remote assessments (eg. where there is a practical component). The Operations Guide makes some reference to possible on-site exemptions for “mandatory assessments”, and states that ‘further advice will be provided’. So we may be able to make arrangements in special circumstances, but I expect this to be sparing.'
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> For systems Engineering, I think it's going to be all but impossible to finish or complete part of the practical SAT models. I highly doubt we can even complete testing of "the control aspect" of our models.
> So there is criteria 4-7 gone! Criteria 8 is about the project evaluations....not sure how this can be done without further constuctions of project models.
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> I have no idea how VCAA expect us to assess the SAT for criterias 4-8.
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> Criteria's 1-3 has been assessed though, so that's something.
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> My unit 3/4 students are chomping at the bit for information. I can't provide any. All we can do is prepare for exams and hope they will be able to do those!
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> Good luck everyone! Tough times.
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>> From the chats I've had with VCAA so far, and just in general updates from their publications, this is the advice:
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> "The examination dates provide sufficient time for teachers and students to complete adjusted VCE Unit 4 learning and school-based assessments, and to adequately prepare for the examinations. They also allow for VCE and VCAL students to receive their results and ATARs on 30 December as per the current schedule."
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> Thoughts? I feel like we have been given a lovely extra 2 weeks or so in Term 4, but our Unit 4 SAT (around 33% of their year mark) was predominantly unchanged barring the exceptions on conducting first person materials tests, and the vague direction that we could make a prototype instead (despite having no documentation of that being sufficient in the modified study design, and leaving aside that a prototype needs to use the same scale/equivalent processes but exchanging materials/technologies).
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> My students completed the calico toile for the preferred option and are now doing the working drawing and the scheduled production plan for the final product, which is criteria 4. Obviously they will not be able to complete the final product.
> Part of criteria 5 - how the product would be manufactured in industry can be done as well, which my students have already done.
> Criteria 6,7,8 and most of 9 cannot be done.
> With criteria 9 - user instruction labels,/ care label, my students did this as a part of the working drawing.
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> Hi,
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> For systems Engineering, I think it's going to be all but impossible to finish or complete part of the practical SAT models. I highly doubt we can even complete testing of "the control aspect" of our models.
> So there is criteria 4-7 gone! Criteria 8 is about the project evaluations....not sure how this can be done without further constuctions of project models.
>
> I have no idea how VCAA expect us to assess the SAT for criterias 4-8.
>
> Criteria's 1-3 has been assessed though, so that's something.
>
> My unit 3/4 students are chomping at the bit for information. I can't provide any. All we can do is prepare for exams and hope they will be able to do those!
>
> Good luck everyone! Tough times.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Brendan D’Arcy (TNBD)
> Senior School Teacher
> VCE Systems Engineering,
> Level A-E Design & Systems Technology and Mathematics
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> Hi all -
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> Is anyone hearing any rumblings from the VCAA around modifications to practical components yet? I know that in some of the 20 studies affected by practical Unit 4 content, it's going to have a big impact.
>
>> From the chats I've had with VCAA so far, and just in general updates from their publications, this is the advice:
>
> "The examination dates provide sufficient time for teachers and students to complete adjusted VCE Unit 4 learning and school-based assessments, and to adequately prepare for the examinations. They also allow for VCE and VCAL students to receive their results and ATARs on 30 December as per the current schedule."
>
> Thoughts? I feel like we have been given a lovely extra 2 weeks or so in Term 4, but our Unit 4 SAT (around 33% of their year mark) was predominantly unchanged barring the exceptions on conducting first person materials tests, and the vague direction that we could make a prototype instead (despite having no documentation of that being sufficient in the modified study design, and leaving aside that a prototype needs to use the same scale/equivalent processes but exchanging materials/technologies).
>
> Anyone heard anything better, or more complete?
>
>
>
> David Pitt Head of Department - Design Technology.
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> Hi David,
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> As of yet, no. To the best of my knowledge there hasn't been any clear instruction or directive with how teachers move forward with the prac element - U4O2 and obviously this will have an impact on U4O3 SAT.
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> The SAC is ok, we can do that remotely under strict times and probably best to offer as an 'open book'.
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> My Year 12 are becoming anxious as they really want to make their products...
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> At this stage, as soon as students have completed the SAC, we will begin to prep for the exam...
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> Student's are finalising SAT criteria 4-5...
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> Hi all -
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> Is anyone hearing any rumblings from the VCAA around modifications to practical components yet? I know that in some of the 20 studies affected by practical Unit 4 content, it's going to have a big impact.
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>> From the chats I've had with VCAA so far, and just in general updates from their publications, this is the advice:
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> "The examination dates provide sufficient time for teachers and students to complete adjusted VCE Unit 4 learning and school-based assessments, and to adequately prepare for the examinations. They also allow for VCE and VCAL students to receive their results and ATARs on 30 December as per the current schedule."
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> Thoughts? I feel like we have been given a lovely extra 2 weeks or so in Term 4, but our Unit 4 SAT (around 33% of their year mark) was predominantly unchanged barring the exceptions on conducting first person materials tests, and the vague direction that we could make a prototype instead (despite having no documentation of that being sufficient in the modified study design, and leaving aside that a prototype needs to use the same scale/equivalent processes but exchanging materials/technologies).
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