[Informatics] FW: Survey

Garth, Lucas A garth.lucas.a at edumail.vic.gov.au
Sun May 13 07:56:32 EDT 2018


Hi Richard and other members of our community,

You make very good points here. Google Forms does produce graphics, but students need to have the ability to manipulate their own data as part of the criteria so I’ll be looking for their preparation and creation of charts of their own. In some ways I can encourage them to at least look at the charts that are pre-created, but the fact that many of these are pie charts (and there’s debate as to whether they should EVER be used…) means that it’s not always the most meaningful information.

Also I imagine students should be using some form of “right/left axis” column chart somewhere in their analysis because they should be able to prove or disprove the relationship between their variables – easiest to be seen often in an XY or “Line/Column chart”.

I have encouraged my students to work out their audience for their surveys.

Some need to use a focus group, because the hypothesis would assume some level of prior knowledge from respondents. The students who are using this type of collection method need to avoid bias if the group is too small, etc.  For these students, they won’t be judged on how many responses that they receive but more on the justification of the use of the focus group.

Others need as wide a group as possible – so they need to release their surveys to the wild and see how many data responses they can get.

Lucas

From: informatics <informatics-bounces at edulists.com.au> On Behalf Of Fox, Richard R
Sent: Sunday, 13 May 2018 8:39 PM
To: Year 12 VCE Informatics Teachers' Mailing List <informatics at edulists.com.au>
Subject: Re: [Informatics] FW: Survey

Hi Vera,

Sorry to hear you’ve been unwell. I’ve done the SAT twice now and my students just use Google Forms. It does mean that some validation that you might normally do in a web page is not done, and they will need to manually check the Google Sheet data that gets filled in. The other trap is that Google Forms generates nice graphs from the raw data, so my students will often just copy those into their reports, without doing any rigorous analysis of their own.

In order to reach maximum numbers, I have used our internal email group lists to pass on the surveys to our students. Which means that I get Year 9s complaining to me about ‘my’ surveys and I have to try to explain that I am just forwarding on behalf of the Year 12 class. Understandably some of the data collected is of a dubious quality, but it is also a learning process to see that when their questions are carelessly worded or poorly considered the value of the data drops considerably.

Regards,
Richard
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Richard Fox
Diamond Valley College

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