[vet-mm] VCE VET IDM - see attached!!

Fawcett - Le Rossignol, Jamie E fawcettlerossignol.jamie.e at edumail.vic.gov.au
Tue Aug 5 12:12:17 EST 2008


I for one really like the idea of students having a Cert 2 after a year.
Mainly because committing to a 2 year course can be a big step for year
10s, unless Multimedia is offered in year 10.  I feel it will turn way
the undecided students to other courses.

Also trying to make year 11 a cert 2 and year 12 a cert 3 by having
program 1 mirror program 2 severely limits the options for students.

And what is it with all the stage, scenic art, and props competencies,
when there's a theatre courses?

Cheers,
Jamie Le Rossignol
Lilydale High School

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[mailto:vet-mm-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of claire
Sent: Tuesday, 5 August 2008 9:45 AM
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Because it was not possible to complete the new Cert 3 in one year,
there was a dilemma, ie that students finish Units 1-4 with only a Cert
2 and partial Cert 3. 
I think industry, tertiary institutions and most teachers would agree it
is better to come out of VCE with a completed Cert 3. Doing Cert 2 and 3
really requires 3 years so some schools may offer the Cert 2 at year 10
and then go onto Cert 3 at year 11 and 12. 
Claire Bloom
Warrandyte High



> Michelle Dennis <mdennis at mentonegirls.vic.edu.au> wrote:
> 
> To me, it depends on your perspective and how you're selling it to the

> kids.  For my students, having a certificate at the end of year 11 if 
> they wish to do the 1/2 sequence is a drawcard and has increased 
> enrolment.  Year 10s especially don't want to necessarily commit to a 
> 2 year course until they get a chance to see what it is like, but also

> perceive partial-completions as being less than desirable.
> 
> Michelle Dennis
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vet-mm-bounces at edulists.com.au
> [mailto:vet-mm-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Brian Pearce
> Sent: Tuesday, 5 August 2008 8:24 AM
> To: VET Multimedia Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: RE: [vet-mm] VCE VET IDM - see attached!!
> 
> Hi Ana,
> 
> I can see too, but now I have a headache.
> 
> Does it mean that we have to provide both Yr 11 pathways so that those

> who chose to finish at Yr 11 have a "certificate". It seems if we just

> offer the Cert III in Media those that drop out at Yr 11 will only 
> have a partial completion of Cert III in Media. Will this be any 
> better or worse than a completed Cert II in Creative Industries ( 
> Media )? Does the VCAA require that we offer both Certificates or is
it optional?
> 
> Also, without seeing the details, it looks like it might be possible 
> to maintain some scripting under the Author Interactive Sequences UOC.
> 
> I suppose when we hear more details, including what will be examined, 
> the way to proceed will become clearer.
> 
> Brian Pearce
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vet-mm-bounces at edulists.com.au
> [mailto:vet-mm-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Ana Tuckerman
> Sent: Monday, 4 August 2008 5:25 PM
> To: VET Multimedia Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: RE: [vet-mm] VCE VET IDM - see attached!!
> 
> Yahh,
> I can see, i know, i can prepare.
> 
> First, we have to start calling it "VCE VET Interactive Digital Media"
> NOT Cert 3 in media.
> Next, why bother with cert 2?
> Third, if copywrite is an elective, do we have to teach it for the 
> year
> 12 exam?
> Fourth, for those who want it, there is 3D (i have to say I'm not 
> going to do it though, its not in the year 12 course).
> Fifth, we now have Video in year 12, AHHHHHHHHH Sixth, I'm assuming 
> that they want us to teach Web, in Author interactive sequences.
> Seven, NO SCRIPTING!
> 
> >From my perspective, I am just going to use Unit 1 & 2 to teach all 
> >the
> software and concepts that they need in Unit 3 & 4 and just adapt the 
> units to fit.
> 
> For example i might use "Produce drawings to represent and communicate

> the concept" to do a comic with storyboard, using flash with buttons 
> and a little animation (to prepare for 2d animation)
> 
> "Maintain interactive content" would be an introduction to "Author 
> interactive sequences"
> 
> And the Compulsory units, you could do anything. Just work in the 
> requirements with any kind of practical task.
> 
> I'm OK with it all. It looks VERY flexible.
> 
> :) Ana
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> Ana Tuckerman
> Multimedia and Media Department
> ELTHAM College of Education
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vet-mm-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of claire
> Sent: Mon 8/4/2008 4:50 PM
> To: VET Multimedia Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: [vet-mm] VCE VET IDM - see attached!!
>  
> 
> The revised VCE VET Interactive Digital Media (IDM)  program has now 
> successfully progressed though all the required internal committees 
> and processes at the VCAA.
> Attached is a PDF extract from the soon to be published VCE VET IDM 
> program booklet. This extract has "gone live" on the VCAA website
today.
> VCAA have made available an extract for both the revised Business and 
> Multimedia programs because they were fielding a large number of calls

> and emails about the programs for next year.
> 
> The complete hard copy of the program booklet will be distributed to 
> schools early in Term IV.
> 
> Let the discussions begin!!
> 
> Claire Bloom
> Warrandyte High
> 
> 
> 
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