[Year 12 SofDev] Diagrams in the SRS - of which system?

Maria-ana Sanchez maria-ana-sanchez at hotmail.com
Mon Mar 20 09:25:58 AEDT 2017


Hi everyone,

UCD, CD and DFDs are ANALYSIS  tools to look at the current not the proposed system. These tools assist to understand the deficiencies & need for improvement of the current system. This will then determine what needs to be done by using design tools.

That is my understanding...

Sincerely,

Maria-ana

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> On 20 Mar 2017, at 08:22, Tony Crewe <TonyCrewe at caulfieldgs.vic.edu.au> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Phil,
> 
> As you will see from previous discussions, what if the need or opportunity has no existing system - manual or digital. Do students just omit that analysis without penalty?
> Then do their requirements, scope etc for their proposed solution.
> 
> Tony
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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>> On 20 Mar 2017, at 8:14 am, Feain, Philip A <feain.philip.a at edumail.vic.gov.au> wrote:
>> 
>> Dear All
>> 
>> That's the existing information system for the diagrams and proposed solution for the SRS. The diagrams can go in the appendices of the SRS. 
>> 
>> Kind Regards
>> 
>> Phil Feain.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 20 Mar 2017, at 8:06 am, Feain, Philip A <feain.philip.a at edumail.vic.gov.au> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dear All
>>> 
>>> I have to agree with James. We are talking about the existing system for analysis. Students will draw the required diagrams and the do the SRS.
>>> 
>>> Kind Regards
>>> 
>>> Phil Feain.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 19 Mar 2017, at 2:58 pm, Vella, James <jvella at mackillop.vic.edu.au> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> The diagrams should be of the existing system or process.
>>>> 
>>>> Regardless of whether students are looking to meet a need or opportunity, there is almost always some existing system or manual process in place.
>>>> 
>>>> The SRS is part of the Analysis stage - not the Design stage.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards
>>>> 
>>>> James
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>>>> From: Lisa Kerekes <Lisa.Kerekes at donvale.vic.edu.au>
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>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> Just seeking clarification/confirmation as to whether the diagrams in the SRS (the Use Case & Context & DFDs) - ought to be
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -        of the client's existing system (if they have one)
>>>> or
>>>> 
>>>> -        of the student's proposed solution
>>>> 
>>>> I guess I'm asking whether the diagrams are more useful to be drawn so students can grasp how the current system works ... or to plan how their solution should function.
>>>> 
>>>> Page 2 of VCAA's Admin Info for SBA<http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/Documents/vce/SBA_General.pdf> suggests that the majority of the SRS is written to describe the new solution, based on data collected about the existing one. "An analysis that defines the requirements, constraints and scope of a solution in the form of a software requirements specification"
>>>> 
>>>> Assessment Criteria 3 reads:
>>>> "Draws a set of logical conclusions with most being consistent with the data represented in the analytical tools."
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Lisa Kerekes
>>>> Secondary Teacher (Computing, Media)
>>>> Phone: (03) 9844 2471 Ext: 266
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>>>> I think best for proposed solution,
>>>> 
>>>> A number of students create solution based on a need or opportunity rather than an existingsituation  in any case.
>>>> 
>>>> Tony
>>>> 
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>>>> Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] Diagrams in the SRS - of which system?
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> Just seeking clarification/confirmation as to whether the diagrams in the SRS (the Use Case & Context & DFDs) - ought to be
>>>> 
>>>> -          of the client's existing system (if they have one)
>>>> or
>>>> 
>>>> -          of the student's proposed solution
>>>> I guess I'm asking whether the diagrams are more useful to be drawn so students can grasp how the current system works ... or to plan how their solution should function.
>>>> 
>>>> Page 2 of VCAA's Admin Info for SBA<http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/Documents/vce/SBA_General.pdf> suggests that the majority of the SRS is written to describe the new solution, based on data collected about the existing one. "An analysis that defines the requirements, constraints and scope of a solution in the form of a software requirements specification"
>>>> 
>>>> Assessment Criteria 3 reads:
>>>> "Draws a set of logical conclusions with most being consistent with the data represented in the analytical tools."
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Lisa Kerekes
>>>> Secondary Teacher (Computing, Media)
>>>> Phone: (03) 9844 2471 Ext: 266
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