[Year 12 SofDev] U4O1 Task 2 - Report/Test

Tue Aug 16 17:55:44 EST 2011

Hi Paula et al,

I am very curious as to the reason why the user documentation was placed into task two. I think it would sit really nicely in task 1 and have avoided some confusion. Was it to ensure that we allocated an appropriate number of marks to the documentation? Is it intended that we supply different software that they create the documentation for rather than create documentation for their task 1 software?

I think if it was explained why the tasks were put together in this fashion it would be easier to interpret and create the most suitable SAC for the students.

Cheers,
Heath Matheson
Mount Beauty

PS - Any offerings you can make to the Snow Gods tonight would be appreciated. 

-----Original Message-----
From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Kevork Krozian
Sent: Tuesday, 16 August 2011 10:08 AM
To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] U4O1 Task 2 - Report/Test

Hi Paula,

I think the key skill in the Study Design:

*         students create user documentation using software

 is what makes the separation clear ( for moi at least ).

I fell into the trap of interpreting the assessment handbook as a self
standing document.  Mia culpa.

Thanks for clearing it up.

Kind Regards
Kevork

> Dear colleagues
>
> I must admit that I am concerned about the varying interpretations of the
> study design and assessment handbook.
>
> Task 2 reads:
> User documentation and an explanation of how security and legal matters
> are managed when creating solutions in one of the following:
>
> *         a written report
>
> *         a test.
> I think that all of this concern is related to the absence of a comma
> after 'user documentation,'
> As stated previously, the key skill states that students must use software
> to create their user documentation, so for Task 2:
>
> *         students create user documentation using software
>
> *         students complete a test or written report to explain '...how
> security and legal matters are managed ...'
> Hope this clears up the concerns about the task.
> Thanks for the discussion about this matter.
>
> Regards
> Paula
>
> Paula Christophersen
> ICT Curriculum Manager
> Victorian Curriculum and Assessment
> Authority
> (03) 9651 4378
>
> From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au
> [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Kevork Krozian
> Sent: Tuesday, 16 August 2011 7:54 AM
> To: 'Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] U4O1 Task 2 - Report/Test
>
> Hi Mark,
>
> A careful reading of p 36-37 of the assessment handbook indicates Task 2
> is to be completed as either a test or a report. The description of task 2
> has 3 components, user doc, security and legal matters. The performance
> descriptors for achievement level describe performance in all of these 3
> components.
>
> Therefore, I am left scratching my head as to how User Doc can fall
> outside task 2 or is a separate issue to allocating either a test or
> report as the mode of assessment and assessing all of user doc, security
> and legal matters in the one task.
>
> Is the suggestion that user doc can be a report and security and legal a
> test ?  Or that user doc is completed as part of task 1 but allocated a
> score in task 2 and only questions relevant to security and legal are
> found in the task 2 document ?
>
> I do take your point about the ITA/SD crossover.
>
> Mildly confused .......
>
> Kevork Krozian
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> From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au
> [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Mark KELLY
> Sent: Monday, 15 August 2011 8:25 PM
> To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] U4O1 Task 2 - Report/Test
>
> Hi Kevork.  My reasoning was that the test/report decision on the
> legal/security issues knowledge was a 50/50 split, but I wanted my ITA
> kids who were in SD to get practice in writing extended responses for the
> anticipated 8-mark questions in the ITA exam.
>
> As Paula mentioned, user documentation is a separate issue.
>
> Regards
>
> Mark
>
> On 14 August 2011 19:39, Kevork Krozian
> <kevork at edulists.com.au<mailto:kevork at edulists.com.au>> wrote:
> The top score descriptor for Task 2 includes the following:
>
> "User documentation is appropriate, logically sequenced, complete and
> accurate. Presentation is clear and consistent with generally accepted
> conventions."
>
> Could it be a test would make it hard to deliver this ?
>
>
>
> Kind Regards
>
> Kevork Krozian
> Edulists Creator Administrator
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> From:
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> [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au<mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au>]
> On Behalf Of Mark KELLY
> Sent: Sunday, 14 August 2011 12:16 PM
> To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] U4O1 Task 2 - Report/Test
>
> I'm doing a report.  I had a good reason at one stage, but I can't
> remember it now  ;-)
> On 13 August 2011 19:42, Margaret King Iaquinto
> <iaquinto at ozemail.com.au<mailto:iaquinto at ozemail.com.au>> wrote:
> Thanks for that, Mark. No matter how many marks for user doc, I reckon it
> must be a really focused task for the user doc. I'm thinking of a
> trouble-shooting guide for a specific process in my case study. Something
> short and sweet. Are you doing a test or a report for the security/legal?
>
> VK3CFI
>
> On Sat Aug 13 16:17 , Mark KELLY sent:
> For me, 10 for user doc. 5 for security/legal.  Pennypinching, I know, but
> there's little choice...
> On 13 August 2011 12:51, Margaret Iaquinto
> <iaquinto at ozemail.com.au<mailto:iaquinto at ozemail.com.au>> wrote:
> Task 2 has only 15 marks out of 60 and some marks go to the user
> documentation. What are people doing for the breakdown in marks with
> Task 2? The user doc can't be a big task -- but that's OK. And the
> remainder of marks are split between security and legal.
>
> Is it better to have Task 2 relate directly to the case study and SRS of
> Task 1? Or to have these marks on a new topic(s)?
>
> Report? Test? Any ideas?
>
> Maggie
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