[Year 12 IT Apps] this database thread again....

Wed Jun 1 10:03:18 EST 2011

I remember the Novell o/s when it came on 5.25² disks (2 of them and three
disks of printer drivers)
The paper instructions came in TWO boxes each nearly a metre long!

Now that is what I call a door stop  ( * grin * )

Then it came out on CD and all the instructions were on disc. My door wept.

Andrew

On 1/06/11 9:56 AM, "Kent Beveridge" <kbeveridge at stbc.vic.edu.au> wrote:

> Ya gotta admit Ro, Dbase was a great little package back in our early teaching
> days! And a nice door stop box too mate!!!!
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> hehehe...
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> Kent Beveridge
> ICT Co-ordinator, St.Brigids CSC, HORSHAM,Vic,Aus.
> kbeveridge at stbc.vic.edu.au
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> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] on
> behalf of Roland Gesthuizen [rgesthuizen at gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, 31 May 2011 12:40 PM
> To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] this database thread again....
> 
> Ah but at one point in the early 1990's they just about gave away DBase III
> with a floppy disk tucked into a back pocket of every text book. DBase IV box
> was handy, if only for propping my office door open.
> 
> On 31 May 2011 12:10, Mark Scott <msc at luther.vic.edu.au> wrote:
>> They had a restricted version that was free for schools.
>>  
>> The alternatives were costly.
>>  
>> Mark Scott
>> Luther College
>>  
>> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au]
>> On Behalf Of Mark KELLY
>> Sent: Tuesday, 31 May 2011 12:01 PM
>> 
>> 
>> To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] this database thread again....
>>  
>> Does anyone still use FoxPro?  I used it in the old IPM SAC days, early 90s -
>> can't remember why on I chose it...
>> Maybe because it was there.
>> 
>>> >From memory, it was quite nice to use.
>> 
>> On 31 May 2011 11:34, Kent Beveridge <kbeveridge at stbc.vic.edu.au> wrote:
>> 
>> Andrew...Dbase..yep used that too! DbIV. (blue screen white font...). I
>> actually did enjoy that program dare I say it.
>> 
>> ok..so I'm a dinosaur..but I like being a dinosaur!!!
>> 
>> KB.
>> 
>> Kent Beveridge
>> 
>> ICT Co-ordinator, St.Brigids CSC, HORSHAM,Vic,Aus.
>> 
>> kbeveridge at stbc.vic.edu.au
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>> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] on
>> behalf of Andrew Shortell [shortell at get2me.net]
>> Sent: Saturday, 28 May 2011 7:33 PM
>> To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] this database thread again....
>> 
>> Hi Kent 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Yes I remember doing that in cobol also. I have used sql, access, dbase 3,
>> dbase 4, filemaker in quite a few versions, , hated doing database activities
>> in spreadsheets esp using microsloth products on the dark side
>> 
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>> 
>> At least you can pay bills online at the moment - my credit card is gone
>> thanks to being cancelled due to fraudulent activity - might be ten days
>> before I see the new one.
>> 
>> I have actually used cash to pay for petrol - felt very weird.
>> 
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>> Database stuff - there are always new people to convert to the light -- "to
>> normalise" so it is wonderful to revive an old old thread again now we feel
>> "normal" (ised)
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>> Andrew
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>> Andrew Shortell
>> 
>> Heidelberg Teaching Unit in 2011
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>> On 28/05/2011, at 4:54 PM, Kent Beveridge wrote:
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>> are we still yappin about this old chestnut again????
>>  
>> 
>> Who upset Mark this time!!?? lol.
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>> 
>> ok...so what about the OpenOffice people??   Oops..almost forgot those fruit
>> loving vegetarians(Apple Mac users).
>>  
>> 
>> And just for a curve ball with a last minute left dip..I wrote a database
>> years ago using COBOL. It ordered, sorted, colored, columned and printed but
>> didnt make coffee, order lunch for you or park your car!! (it used a good ol
>> comma delimited data file too)
>>  
>> 
>> oh how I love these chats...puts a smile on my dial...
>>  
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>> your turn now...
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>> 
>> hehehehe...
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>> (me? I've used Access, Clipper, Oracle. Have OpenOffice on my home box(saves
>> $$ and space!)  and no, I havent used FileMaker, so cant comment on it.
>> 
>> Oh, yeah, we also must remember that DB apps can be made with spreadsheets
>> too...just to throw a fly in the ointment here.)
>>  
>> 
>> ......must be time to put the kettle on! Got no money left, just paid some
>> bills online.....oh, and told an e-marketing crew to go jump!
>>  
>> 
>> Kent Beveridge
>> 
>> ICT Co-ordinator, St.Brigids CSC, HORSHAM,Vic,Aus.
>> 
>> kbeveridge at stbc.vic.edu.au
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] on
>> behalf of Litsa Tzelepis [htzelepis at msj.vic.edu.au]
>> Sent: Saturday, 28 May 2011 11:50 AM
>> To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] (no subject)
>> 
>> oh no!
>> 
>> so who don't they laugh at?
>> 
>> {:-|
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> 
>>> From: Mark KELLY <mailto:kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au>
>>> 
>>> To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
>>> <mailto:itapps at edulists.com.au>
>>> 
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 11:15 AM
>>> 
>>> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] (no subject)
>>> 
>>>  
>>> People might laugh at Access users, but think of us Filemaker users.
>>> 
>>> In the street, dogs laugh at us, children bite us, and accountants poke us
>>> with sticks  :-(
>>> 
>>> On 27 May 2011 19:51, Jenny Gielb <Tafe at imaginethis.biz> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> A lot of IT people laugh at MS Access, they view it as puny and
>>> inconsequential. As someone who has made quite a bit of money out of
>>> developing MS Access databases for many different businesses, I laugh at
>>> them.
>>> It is not as secure or reliable as SQL or MYSQL, or as relevant in terms of
>>> internet development but it is a very powerful tool. It has the benefit of
>>> being already available to anyone with Office, it has a fantastic GUI
>>> interface which PHP, .NET, VB, Crystal Reports and SQL do not have. It also
>>> has everything in the one package, which none of the others have. It is
>>> basically the best available software to train anyone in databases and
>>> system development. Once a student understands the concepts of database
>>> design, VBA code and front-end screen development, they can easily pick up
>>> any other database tool.
>>> I agree, it would be more beneficial to teach the students web-based coding
>>> and databases, but that is very complex, is changing constantly, and there
>>> is so many choices there that you can't decide what to use.
>>> I think teaching them the basics of databases and websites is more
>>> important, they can take it further if they want later.
>>> 
>>> As an Access developer I have never ever, and wouldn't ever use drop-down
>>> boxes on tables. Drop-down boxes are for forms and data entry. Don't confuse
>>> the issue. Tables are for storing data, forms are for entering and
>>> displaying, reports are for displaying data. You have to set up basic forms
>>> for data entry anyway.
>>> Jenny
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> -- 
>> Andrew Shortell
>> 
>> mailto:shortell at get2me.net
>> Heidelberg Teaching Unit
>> Ph 9470 3403
>> Fax  9470 3215
>> 

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