[Year 12 IT Apps] IT Lecture Notes
Andrew Grimshaw
grimshaw.andrew.j at edumail.vic.gov.au
Wed Feb 7 13:48:48 EST 2007
RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] IT Lecture NotesI agree totally - as a new teacher of=
IPM 3 yrs ago, mark's material was invaluable
there must be a simple solution to our problem, like a password protected mo=
odle, that will abide by the law
andrew grimshaw
colac college
----- Original Message -----
From: Bane, Janet A
To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 12:59 PM
Subject: RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] IT Lecture Notes
I think its kind of ironic really, the emphasis in the new study design is=
all about collaborative sharing of knowledge and resources. Sad that they=
can't practice what they preach.
It would be good if EVERYONE who subscribes to this list showed their supp=
ort of mark's fantastic work over the years. I for one am truly greatful fo=
r all the great resources he has put together, including the "illegal" post=
mortem.
Keep up the good work
Janet Bane
Patterson Rive SC
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From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of margaret.lawson at konstant=
kaos.net
Sent: Tue 06-Feb-07 4:32 PM
To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] IT Lecture Notes
I am just catching up with this thread ... what can I say - absolute
bullshit.
We use the technology to COLLABORATE and to enrich the learning of the
collective group, and the reward is a slap in the face.
Does this "copyright" decision have ramifications for anyone presenting at
conferences or PD events?
Mark, a big thankyou from the IT Teaching community, your efforts have
been appreciated by teachers and students alike.
Grrr
Margaret
> "Tis a sad day. I enjoyed your post mortems Mark.
>
> Regards
>
> Caroline Thomas
>
> Baimbridge College, Hamilton
> 85 Stephen Street
> HAMILTON VIC 3300
> Ph 03 5572 2788
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> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Mark Kelly
> Sent: Mon 05-February-2007 9:30 AM
> To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] IT Lecture Notes
>
>
>
> I'm staying out of it for the time being.
>
> It's the decision of VCAA's copyright officer, Renee Brierley, and Paula=
.
>
> What I'll have to do is put the copyrighted stuff (exam questions, key
> knowledge & skills, glossary) on our extranet so the only people who can
> reach those bits will be McKinnon students. Sigh.
>
> Kevork Krozian wrote:
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> I feel a little confused here and perhaps Mark can shed more light on
>> it.
>>
>> Mark can't publish his discussion of the questions because it is
>> copyright means what ?
>>
>> .. that the questions are owned by the VCAA and to mention them is
>> breach of intellectual property even though you are teaching the subjec=
t
>> and obviously need to discuss it with your students and colleagues ?
>> .. that it does not qualify for an exemption on the grounds that it is
>> not educational ???? What does that mean ? How much more educational
>> does it have to be if not to discuss how Yr 12 students would be
>> reasonably expected to answer the questions based on what is in the
>> study design ?
>>
>> I am rather confused. Mark if you are reading this please help us all
>> understand the answers to these questions.
>> Perhaps Paula can help us find some of these answers too .
>>
>> Yours in sadness
>>
>> Kevork Krozian
>> Mailing List Creator and Administrator
>> kevork at edulists.com.au
>> www.edulists.com.au
>> Tel: 0419 356 034
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maggie Iaquinto"
>> <IAQUIM at bialik.vic.edu.au>
>> To: "Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List"
>> <itapps at edulists.com.au>
>> Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 5:26 PM
>> Subject: RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] IT Lecture Notes
>>
>>
>>> I agree! The Post Mortem was SO valuable. And your sense of humour
>>> lifted a rather difficult subject. The answers suggested were and
>>> remain an excellent teaching tool.
>>>
>>> Are there any others who feel this way?
>>>
>>> Maggie
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Brett Davies
>>> Sent: Mon 2/5/2007 5:11 PM
>>> To: itapps at edulists.com.au
>>> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] IT Lecture Notes
>>>
>>> How ridiculous!
>>>
>>> Those notes, post mortems and everything else you contribute have been
>>> extremely valuable to my students and will be sorely missed. Does VCAA
>>> propose to replace this with something just as useful?..... or have
>>> they offerred no alternative just a no!
>>>
>>> If this was not educational use what was it?
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au >>>
>>> Apologies for cross-posts.
>>>
>>> At the insistence of the Copyright Officer at the VCAA I have removed
>>> all of their copyrighted material from the IT Lecture Notes site,
>>> including all of the exam post mortems, the course summaries, and the
>>> annotated glossary.
>>>
>>> They tell me 'this is not considered an "educational use".'
>>>
>>> I can't be bothered arguing with the VCAA lawyers about how many words
>>> I'm allowed to quote, so there are probably not going to be any more I=
T
>>> post mortems.
>>>
>>> I'm just going to go away and mumble a lot now.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Mark Kelly
>>> Manager - Information Systems
>>> McKinnon Secondary College
>>> McKinnon Rd McKinnon 3204, Victoria, Australia
>>> Direct line / Voicemail: 8520 9085
>>> School Phone +613 8520 9000
>>> School Fax +613 95789253
>>>
>>> Webmaster - http://www.mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au
>>> <http://www.mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au/>
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>
> --
> Mark Kelly
> Manager - Information Systems
> McKinnon Secondary College
> McKinnon Rd McKinnon 3204, Victoria, Australia
> Direct line / Voicemail: 8520 9085
> School Phone +613 8520 9000
> School Fax +613 95789253
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> Webmaster - http://www.mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au
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