[Year 12 Its] Programming languages - IT 1&2 & Software 3&4

Kevork Krozian Kroset at novell1.fhc.vic.edu.au
Wed Jun 7 12:55:30 EST 2006


Hi Paul,

 Are you thinking imperative vs Non-imperative from the last millenium
??????
Uggggghhhhh !!!!!

Kevork

>>> paul.chandler at YVG.vic.edu.au 06/07/06 11:31am >>>
I think "the trick" with using PHP is to set up tasks in such a way so
that the programming is more than "glue code" between a database and a
web page.

(Do I hear echos of the "interpretive" vs "non-interpretive" debate of
years ago?) 

-----Original Message-----
From: is-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:is-bounces at edulists.com.au] On
Behalf Of gordonp at horsham-college.vic.edu.au 
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 11:19 AM
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Subject: RE: [Year 12 Its] Programming languages - IT 1&2 & Software
3&4

Ok David
just briefly I think PHP is fantastic and i have used it to
successfully run some big student surveys. I also intend to use it  next
year for the year 11 course.
My flippant comment about the IS approved language list criteria of
"gui apps" reflects the fact that most teachers are using PHP for
backend database work

Having used actionscript/flash a little with Year 10's, i'd love to
trial it in Systems - but for reasons unclear to me it is not approved.

                       gordon


"David Dawson" <dgdawson at mgs.vic.edu.au> on Wed, 7 Jun 2006 09:29:29
+1000 wrote:
> Hi Gordon
> You've hooked me. 
> Can you explain to us how you believe PHP, which utilises the 
> complexity of HTML layers, .css files, forms, server files,
databases, 
> images, animations, multimedia and web objects does not meet your 
> expectations of a GUI?
> Have you actually ever used it? Do you think interactive web 
> applications do not "meet the criteria"? Can you explain what you
have 
> read in the criteria that would support your premise?
> David Dawson
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: is-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:is-bounces at edulists.com.au]

> On Behalf Of gordonp at horsham-college.vic.edu.au 
> Sent: Wednesday, 7 June 2006 8:37 AM
> To: is at edulists.com.au 
> Subject: RE: [Year 12 Its] Programming languages - IT 1&2 & Software

> 3&4
> 
> Every year I wonder why actionscript is not on the list and never get

> a really satsfactory answer...
> 
> PHP is accepted and it hardly even meets one of the criteria (gui), 
> yet an almost full-blown javaesque language that combines with an 
> excellent animation suite is not??
> Yes Con i know it comes from one of evil software vendors, but it is

> very good, and another way to get kids enjoying their programming 
> (almost as good as VB!) There are plenty of years of database 
> programming ahead for those so inclined...
>                      
>                         gordon
> 
> 
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