[Year 12 IPM] Record for number of messages broken !!!

Laurie Savage sav at pvgc.vic.edu.au
Mon Dec 4 11:27:45 EST 2006


There is a lovely old Unix tool for just that called xfaces - the 
desktop mail notification applet pops up with a picture (picon) of your 
colleague (or a default image). I wonder if it's been modernised. It was 
VERY geekish!

Laurie

Keith Richardson wrote:
> Dear Santork Kev or is it Santa Kevork - You are indeed "a teacher who
> changes lives" <<that's a compliment folks>> and in the spirit of
> Christmas may we all collectively thank you for your listization of us
> as a group.
> Some years ago, Kevork, I made a suggestion that for a variety of
> reasons was not taken up, and I would like to make it again. I have my
> reasons for this suggestion that crystallized for me during the long
> lunch periods at this year's VITTA Conference.
> Each day I looked across the sea of faces, totally frustrated because
> here were many friends-on-list but I was not able to RECOGNIZE THEIR
> FACES because all we ever see is their names. I would have loved to
> drift from list-friend to list-friend, picking up comments and
> associations, and further enriching our shared experiences for the
> following year.
> My suggestion? <<Adjust the email list setup so that a tiny photograph
> of the sender shows beside their name each time they send replies etc to
> the list.>>
> So there you have it. What do others think?
> Merry Christmas to you all!
> Keith
> 
> 
> On Fri, 1 Dec 2006 21:47:25 +1100, "Kevork Krozian"
> <kevork at edulists.com.au> said:
>> Hi IPM ( soon to be itapps)  colleagues,
>>
>>  Well you have done it. In Nov 2006 you posted 435 messages ( about 15
>>  per day ) overtaking the previous record of 424 (Aug 2006) set by the
>>  Business Managers' mailing list. Remember they are at their
>>  desks/computers almost the whole working day and your working day is a
>>  different arrangement. 
>>  I hope the interaction was useful as we enter a new dawn ..... not
>>  meaning to be too dramatic.
>>
>> While I have your attention.  In the next little while the ipm mailing
>> list will be retired and all subscribers will be moved to the new list
>> itapps at edulists.com.au . You do not need to do anything. A message will
>> go out when the changeover ( will it be direct, phased, pilot or parallel
>> ????   --  just kidding ! )   takes place.  Just keep replying to the
>> list. For a while both ipm at edulists.com.au and itapps at edulists.com.au
>> will go to the same place after which ipm at edulists.com.au will no longer
>> exist ........   :( teary eyed ..... I believe it is the first name
>> change for IPM since 1990, though I am happy to be corrected if that is
>> wrong.
>>
>> A similar announcement will go out to the is at edulists.com.au list which
>> will convert to sofdev at edulists.com.au .
>>
>> The twig on the edulists tree showing ipm will gradually shrink and be
>> overtaken by the itapps twig and similarly the is twig will give way to
>> the sofdev one.  
>>
>> Anyone care to make a speech on the cusp of this momentous occasion or
>> are we too busy stressing out about next year ?   I am not sure about
>> everyone else but  I will have sofdev, yr11it and VET IT which will all
>> be new next year ( I will also teach Cisco CCNA 1-2 and Cisco CCNA 3-4 ).
>>
>> With thanks and Best Wishes to all of you
>>
>> Kevork Krozian
>> Mailing List Creator and Administrator
>> kevork at edulists.com.au
>> www.edulists.com.au
>> Tel: 0419 356 034
>>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>>   From: Roland Gesthuizen 
>>   To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
>>   Teachers'Mailing List 
>>   Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 8:30 PM
>>   Subject: Re: [Year 12 IPM] U3O2 Virtual Teams
>>
>>
>>   G'day Keith, my virtual shoes are ringing (or is it my music player).
>>   Yesterday my memory laces come loose with too many unanswered SMS pages
>>   and I had to reboot the soles.  Enjoy the attached creative writing
>>   essay by one of my IPM students from four years ago. 
>>
>>   (* Clicks heels of his red shoes three times, shouting there is no
>>   place like school, there is no place like school ... *) Apologies to
>>   Dorothy and Toto.
>>
>>   Regards Roland 
>>
>>
>>   On 01/12/06, Keith Richardson <keithcr at fastmail.fm> wrote:
>>     G'day Scotty - suggestion - just timetable virtual classes with
>>     virtual
>>     teachers in virtual spaces then the kids stay at home, the teachers
>>     stay
>>     in the staffroom (to be close to the coffee machines), and the school
>>     puts extra Moodle servers into the empty classrooms. Time becomes
>>     immaterial because classes may be held either synchronously (if you
>>     were
>>     able to put them together in the timetable, and asynchronistically at
>>     other times. It sounds so good, I might just give it a try
>>     (joking...). 
>>     Cheers, Keith
>>
>>
>>     On Fri, 1 Dec 2006 07:26:21 +1100, "Mark Scott"
>>     <msc at staff.luther.vic.edu.au> said:
>>     > Keith
>>     >
>>     > You sound so progressive and dynamic that it is depressing, especially 
>>     > when I am knee deep in the mire trying to build a 2007 timetable and
>>     > haven't looked at the study design yet.
>>     >
>>     > (Pls excuse the whinge)
>>     > Mark Scott
>>     >
>>     > -----Original Message----- 
>>     > From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au]
>>     > On Behalf Of Keith Richardson
>>     > Sent: Friday, 1 December 2006 6:20 AM 
>>     > To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
>>     > Teachers'Mailing List
>>     > Subject: RE: [Year 12 IPM] U3O2 Virtual Teams
>>     >
>>     > Thank you Mark and Paula - although I don't like it, I can see where you 
>>     > are coming from.
>>     > I personally do not like it because having to 'fake-it' rarely leaves me
>>     > or the kids satisfied - it seems like science experiments of old where
>>     > we tell the kids what 'should' have happened even though their eyes and 
>>     > ears tell them that it did not.
>>     > I guess that as long as we expose them to actually functioning tools
>>     > albeit not in their actual SAC, they can become intuitively confident
>>     > that such functionality does really exist. In the past I have 
>>     > experienced similar frustrations with wanting to have functioning
>>     > databases behind websites.
>>     > However, for myself I intend trying as hard as possible to achieve
>>     > genuine functionality of appropriate virtual-team-tools within their SAC 
>>     > situation. Time will tell!
>>     > Keith
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 08:29:14 +1100, "Christophersen, Paula P"
>>     > <christophersen.paula.p at edumail.vic.gov.au > said:
>>     > > Mark and colleagues
>>     > >
>>     > > This last interpretation of the outcome (and task requirements) and
>>     > > advice about teaching and learning and assessment are timely and
>>     > > correct.
>>     > >
>>     > > Regards
>>     > > Paula
>>     > >
>>     > > Paula Christophersen
>>     > > ICT Curriculum Manager
>>     > > Victorian Curriculum and Assessment
>>     > > Authority 
>>     > > 41 St Andrews Place
>>     > > EAST MELBOURNE 3002
>>     > > Phone: 03 9651 4378
>>     > > Fax: 03 9651 4324
>>     > >
>>     > >
>>     > > -----Original Message-----
>>     > > From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au]
>>     > > On Behalf Of Mark Kelly
>>     > > Sent: Wednesday, 29 November 2006 8:21 AM
>>     > > To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management 
>>     > > Teachers'Mailing List
>>     > > Subject: Re: [Year 12 IPM] U3O2 Virtual Teams
>>     > >
>>     > > Key things to remember abuout ITA U3O2, as I understand it...
>>     > >
>>     > > - Knowledge sharing is part of it, but the solution must also 
>>     > facilitate
>>     > >
>>     > > team decision-making.  (So a static website with info on it - as in
>>     > the
>>     > > Potts example - is not good.)
>>     > >
>>     > > - Features that can't be realistically created for real can be 
>>     > > simulated. e.g. Create a web forum lookalike screen in Photoshop; fake
>>     > a
>>     > >
>>     > > web-shopping checkout or online feedback form, or a networked calendar
>>     > > or booking sheet with graphics buttons and the like.  Since it's a 
>>     > > prototype website, such parts do not need to actually work.  So the
>>     > kids
>>     > >
>>     > > don't need to actually set up a Miki or a Woogle, they just have to
>>     > > indicate that they know it would help the team share info / make 
>>     > > collaborative decisions.
>>     > >
>>     > > - So by all means introduce kids to relevant tools, but don't freak
>>     > > yourself out unnecessarily about having to use them in the outcome.
>>     > > 
>>     > > As I understand it...
>>     > >
>>     > > Mark
>>     > >
>>     > > Keith Richardson wrote:
>>     > > > I am also very confused by this Geraldine - I am almost tempted to
>>     > try
>>     > > > to do it in two parts - one with website creation, and one using our 
>>     > > > Moodle in the school setting them the task to design then create
>>     > > various
>>     > > > cooperative, virtual team tools and be able to demonstrate that they
>>     > > > actually work. I have not planned more deeply than that yet. 
>>     > > > What do others think?
>>     > > > Keith
>>     > > >
>>     > > >
>>     > > >
>>     > > >
>>     > > > On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 22:23:11 +1100, "Geraldine McKenna"
>>     > > > <gmckenna at ozemail.com.au> said:
>>     > > >> I still feel quite unclear about what is expected in this outcome.
>>     > > Would
>>     > > >> a 
>>     > > >> link to the Google Docs site mentioned recently suffice or a link
>>     > to
>>     > > a
>>     > > >> Moodle wiki for sharing knowledge or a blog? Given that we need to
>>     > > use
>>     > > >> web
>>     > > >> authoring software - Dreamweaver in my case - I can only imagine
>>     > > creating
>>     > > >> links to other tools rather than actually creating the knowledge
>>     > > sharing
>>     > > >> capability within the website. Can anyone give more specific
>>     > examples
>>     > > of
>>     > > >> how
>>     > > >> they imagine this prototype website will look? 
>>     > > >> Geraldine McKenna
>>     > > >> Avila College
>>     > > >>
>>     > > >> Thanks also for feedback re VET Multimedia. Seems it may not be a
>>     > > more
>>     > > >> attractive option for girls? 
>>     > > >>
>>     > > >> -----Original Message-----
>>     > > >> From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au
>>     > > [mailto: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au]On
>>     > > >> Behalf Of Christophersen, Paula P
>>     > > >> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 8:33 AM
>>     > > >> To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management 
>>     > > >> Teachers'MailingList
>>     > > >> Subject: RE: [Year 12 IPM] U3O2 Virtual Teams
>>     > > >>
>>     > > >>
>>     > > >> Dear colleagues
>>     > > >>
>>     > > >> It's great to hear this healthy discussion regarding Unit 3, 
>>     > Outcome
>>     > > 2.
>>     > > >> I just want to stress that when students independently develop
>>     > their
>>     > > >> prototype website, it is OK just to simulate practices/tools rather 
>>     > > than
>>     > > >> creating/using them. The main intention of this part of the outcome
>>     > > is
>>     > > >> for students to demonstrate their understanding of tools/facilities
>>     > > >> available to support knowledge sharing and collaborative 
>>     > > >> decision-making.
>>     > > >>
>>     > > >> So, when completing this assessment task, students would design the
>>     > > >> website, create the homepage and create/simulate that part of the 
>>     > > >> website that supports knowledge sharing and collaborative decision
>>     > > >> making. Then, comes the theory part on networking.
>>     > > >>
>>     > > >> Regards
>>     > > >> Paula 
>>     > > >>
>>     > > >> Paula Christophersen
>>     > > >> ICT Curriculum Manager
>>     > > >> Victorian Curriculum and Assessment
>>     > > >> Authority
>>     > > >> 41 St Andrews Place 
>>     > > >> EAST MELBOURNE 3002
>>     > > >> Phone: 03 9651 4378
>>     > > >> Fax: 03 9651 4324
>>     > > >>
>>     > > >>
>>     > > >> -----Original Message-----
>>     > > >> From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au
>>     > > [mailto:ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au]
>>     > > >> On Behalf Of Cameron Bell 
>>     > > >> Sent: Friday, 24 November 2006 8:05 AM
>>     > > >> To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
>>     > > >> Teachers'Mailing List
>>     > > >> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IPM] U3O2 Virtual Teams 
>>     > > >>
>>     > > >> Likewise. I am wondering about setting up a Jabber server for such
>>     > a
>>     > > >> purpose. Simply to reduce external traffic costs and bandwidth and
>>     > > keep 
>>     > > >> it fully internal and "safer" for students. Has anyone done this
>>     > yet?
>>     > > >> Would be interested in feedback.
>>     > > >> Cameron
>>     > > >>
>>     > > >> Keith Richardson wrote:
>>     > > >>> Skype has enabled some of the virtual teams I work in to be fast,
>>     > > >>> efficient and effective, but it is real-time. One also needs 
>>     > > >>> a-synchronous tools too.
>>     > > >>> Keith
>>     > > >>>
>>     > > >>>
>>     > > >>> On Thu, 23 Nov 2006 15:30:47 +1100, "Mark Kelly"
>>     > > >>> <kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au> said:
>>     > > >>>
>>     > > >>>> Yes, but is email a complete solution?  It's certainly relevant 
>>     > and
>>     > > >>>> important, but can it achieve everything a virtual team needs?
>>     > > >>>>
>>     > > >>>> I ask myself (as 3:30 comes and I have to drag myself to a 
>>     > > curriculum
>>     > > >>>> meeting) why I'm dragging myself to a meeting.  Why couldn't it
>>     > be
>>     > > >> done
>>     > > >>>> by email?  If you can work that out, you may start to see where 
>>     > > >> email's
>>     > > >>>> limitations begin.
>>     > > >>>>
>>     > > >>>> 2.2 cents' worth (GST inc)
>>     > > >>>>
>>     > > >>>> Off to curriculum.  VELS again. 
>>     > > >>>>
>>     > > >>>> Sigh........
>>     > > >>>>
>>     > > >>>>
>>     > > >>>> jtabone at aitkencollege.edu.au wrote:
>>     > > >>>>
>>     > > >>>>> Dear All
>>     > > >>>>>
>>     > > >>>>> I am reading with interest everyone's comments on U302 -
>>     > > >>>>> collaborative problem solving within virtual teams and am 
>>     > > wondering
>>     > > >>>>> if I may be over-simplifying this outcome task
>>     > > >>>>>
>>     > > >>>>> Going by the detailed example in the study design p. 69-70 we 
>>     > are
>>     > > >>>>> given the scenario of university located on one
>>     > > >>>>> "large campus", whereby management has recently formed as one of
>>     > > >>>>> their key objectives to "strengthen current strategic 
>>     > > collaborations
>>     > > >>>>> and forge new alliances that will create new knowledge ..."
>>     > > >>>>>
>>     > > >>>>> The task is then:
>>     > > >>>>> 
>>     > > >>>>> "design and create a prototype website for Sherwood University
>>     > > that
>>     > > >>>>> will enable various virtual teams ... to realise their goals and
>>     > > to
>>     > > >>>>> enhance decision making, knowledge sharing and collaborative
>>     > > problem
>>     > > >>>>> solving"
>>     > > >>>>>
>>     > > >>>>> Couldn't simply having an email link solve this problem - yes 
>>     > you
>>     > > >>>>> would use wikis, blogs, forums, webcasts, and every other "sexy"
>>     > > >>>>> tool
>>     > > >>>>> - however I can communicate virtually via email to people with 
>>     > the
>>     > > >>>>> same interest (teams)
>>     > > >>>>>
>>     > > >>>>> Really, isn't that what I am doing right now - sending an email
>>     > to
>>     > > a 
>>     > > >>>>> group of people with a common interest and goal and sharing
>>     > > >>>>> information and receiving information in a collaborative
>>     > > environment
>>     > > >>>>> 
>>     > > >>>>>
>>     > > >>>>> Just my thoughts
>>     > > >>>>>
>>     > > >>>>> Cheers
>>     > > >>>>> Joyce Tabone
>>     > > >>>>> Aitken College 
>>     > > >>>>>
>>     > > >>>>>
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