[Year 12 IPM] OT - Printing Policy

Wed Jun 1 21:56:05 EST 2005

We have a little trick that we pull with the colour laser printing.
Every colour print job just goes into a queue that the Tech or I can
access and approve or not. We charge $1 per colour page and 10c per
black and white, so one colour equals 10 BWs. Seems to clamp down on the
color printing. The laser cartridges cost hundreds and hundreds of $ so
I don't want our budget blowing out. Also, after a considerable amount
of use the quality of printed images erodes away. We love the beautiful
quality of the colour prints and want to keep it that way as long as
possible, hence an added subtle bonus for keeping the troughput down to
sensible levels.
Keith.

On Wed, 1 Jun 2005 21:32:16 +1000, "Meadows, Roslyn M"
<Meadows.Roslyn.M at edumail.vic.gov.au> said:
> Ouch - your pay per print will end up costing me money Mark!!
>  
> We had free printing until 2001 when we brought in pay per print - we
> were sick of kids printing out the whole world wide web and not even
> bothering to collect it from the printer!
>  
> We have successfully used GAIA since Feb 2004, and have recently
> installed the latest version - which does inform via a popup when your
> printing credit goes down to $1.50 (or thereabouts) Certainly great
> software! 
>  
> We leave it to the kids (and staff) to choose which printer they print
> to, especially now we have made the colour printers available from any PC
> in the school, and when they claim that nothing printed out but they have
> no credit left, we have a record in GAIA so we can say to them "you
> printed it to the colour laser in C22 - at 50 cents per copy" A steep
> learning curve for many but it's amazing how when something hurts the hip
> pocket they don't make the same mistake twice! If only I could say the
> same for staff - some of whom have somehow got the colour laser as the
> default printer on their laptop, and they just hit the print icon
> multiple times and wonder why it is not coming out of the printer they
> are sitting beside. One staff member printed out a 75 page (approx) black
> text document 3 or 4 times on the colour laser before he ran out of
> credit and wandered off to see our tech.
>  
> Personally I avoid the printing issue altogether by making my kids submit
> everything they do via the intranet. Way to GO! 
>  
> Cheers
> Ros Meadows
> TONS
> Bentleigh Secondary College
> Ph 9579 1044
>  
> 
>  
>  
> ________________________________
> 
> From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Mark Kelly
> Sent: Wed 1/06/2005 10:46 AM
> To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
> Teachers'Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IPM] OT - Printing Policy
> 
> 
> 
> Robert Timmer-Arends wrote:
> 
>  > Hello Mark
>  > Your policy looks good.
>  > We have been using a similar product (PaperCut). The only concern we
> have is
>  > one that you have covered in your policy (as we have), but we have found
>  > hard to police, namely one student using another's account to print
> from -
>  > this results in the legitimate user suddenly being unable to print.
> We have
>  > basically pushed the line that this is yet another reason for keeping
> their
>  > password to themselves (in other words 'stiff bikkies kid'). We have also
>  > made some policy changes in Windows XP that make this more difficult
> to do.
> 
> Thanks, Robert.  We've always been brutal with the monitoring and
> enforcement of not using other people's logins (I used the word "people"
> rather than "students" in the policy so kids can't use a teacher's login
> and start playing bush lawyer).
> 
> Kids now accept that it is a capital offence to use someone else's
> account (even if the other person logs in for them and keeps their
> password secret).  This became necessary after we turned on internet
> charging.
> 
> We keep reiterating that anything (including things that cost money such
> as internet and now printing) that happens under their login name will
> be attributable to them alone, so they must protect their passwords.
> 
> >
> > A second 'concern' is just nuisance value and lasts for as long as it takes
> > the teacher and/or student to cotton on: if your account is empty and you
> > print, PaperCut doesn't tell you that you have no funds left. The desktop
> > appears to print but nothing comes out, so at first it seems that something
> > is broke! Many grumbles later one suddenly thinks to check the student's
> > print balance....
> >
> > Regards
> > Robert T-A
> > Brighton SC
> 
> I have not played with Gaia much yet, but I think it would warn that
> printing was not happening.  It seems to do pretty well everything else
> :-)
> 
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mark Kelly" <kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au>
> > To: "Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management Teachers'
> > Mailing List" <ipm at edulists.com.au>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 2:33 PM
> > Subject: [Year 12 IPM] OT - Printing Policy
> >
> >
> >
> >>We're just about to turn on print charging for students with Gaia Print
> >>   Charger (better late than never). As I worked on our announcement to
> >>students, I wondered if other people had experience with such matters
> >>and can advise of things I have not anticipated.
> >>
> >>My draft policy is attached.
> >>
> >>Any suggestions would be appreciated.
> >>
> >>--
> >>Mark Kelly
> >>Manager, Information Systems
> >>McKinnon Secondary College
> 
> --
> Mark Kelly
> Manager - Information Systems
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