[English] RE: english Digest, Vol 42, Issue 10

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Tue Dec 1 12:27:56 EST 2009


Hi Gill,
I agree with your comments on 'Interpreter of the Maladies'. I am looking forward to teaching this text next year.

Regards
Katherine



> Gillian Mortimer <gmortimer at distance.vic.edu.au> wrote:
> 
> Jhumpa Lahiri's 'Interpreter of Maladies' is an excellent ESL choice. 
> Short stories, the collection is not too long, themes of identity, being 
> different, being torn between two cultures. Beautifully but fairly 
> simply written. Vocab's not too hard. Lots of potential to talk about 
> young adult relationships. The structure of the short stories is readily 
> identifiable  - it's easy to find details in the writing to demonstrate 
> various points of view. What's more there are plenty of reviews and 
> photos on the net and you can watch Lahiri on YouTube, answering 
> questions, receiving awards and reading her work.
> It's a fantastic ESL text.
> Gill Mortimer
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> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:33:34 +1100
> From: "Reynolds, Gail G" <reynolds.gail.g at edumail.vic.gov.au>
> Subject: RE: [English] Year 12 ESL English
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> Rebecca is not the only one teaching Poe to ESL!
> 
> The 2010 list is terrible for ESL -- especially for our large cohort of 
> Chinese students who do not respond well to texts which contain swearing 
> or other things they find morally questionable (which automatically 
> excludes texts like Cosi). Other issues include texts which depend on a 
> recognition of Australian/European cultural references (such as Bypass 
> .. which in any case seems to me to lack the  depth which will promote 
> complex responses ) Some other selections from the text list are really 
> heavy going (both context and vocab) for the ESLs -- Shakespeare???
> 
> On the up side there are some excellent web resources for Poe many of 
> which will aid the ESL student. Once the POe stories are unpacked for 
> the students, they represent the kinds of stories which bear a 
> similarity to the oral traditions of many of our students.  We agonised 
> over our list and I read all the texts again in my quest for something 
> "good". I would be really interested to know what others have chosen for 
> ESL ... and why.
> Gail
> 
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> From: english-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Lyle Stebbing
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> Dear Rebecca,
> You're doing Poe with an ESL class????
> Lyle
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> From: "Caruso, Greta" <Caruso.G at kingswoodcollege.vic.edu.au>
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> Yes, the list is really sad for ESL.  We are doing:
> Maestro
> Look Both Ways
> The Crucible
> 
> Really there are very few things to select from.
> There are some really good recordings of Poe stuff on youtube and the 
> iTunes. It might help to have the kids hear the text read.
> Good luck
> Greta Caruso
> 
> ________________________________
> From: english-bounces at edulists.com.au 
> [mailto:english-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Reynolds, Gail G
> Sent: Monday, 30 November 2009 4:34 PM
> To: VCE English Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: RE: [English] Year 12 ESL English
> 
> Rebecca is not the only one teaching Poe to ESL!
> 
> The 2010 list is terrible for ESL -- especially for our large cohort of 
> Chinese students who do not respond well to texts which contain swearing 
> or other things they find morally questionable (which automatically 
> excludes texts like Cosi). Other issues include texts which depend on a 
> recognition of Australian/European cultural references (such as Bypass 
> .. which in any case seems to me to lack the  depth which will promote 
> complex responses ) Some other selections from the text list are really 
> heavy going (both context and vocab) for the ESLs -- Shakespeare???
> 
> On the up side there are some excellent web resources for Poe many of 
> which will aid the ESL student. Once the POe stories are unpacked for 
> the students, they represent the kinds of stories which bear a 
> similarity to the oral traditions of many of our students.  We agonised 
> over our list and I read all the texts again in my quest for something 
> "good". I would be really interested to know what others have chosen for 
> ESL ... and why.
> Gail
> 
> ________________________________
> From: english-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Lyle Stebbing
> Sent: Sun 29/11/2009 8:58 PM
> To: VCE English Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [English] Year 12 ESL English
> Dear Rebecca,
> You're doing Poe with an ESL class????
> Lyle
> 
> 
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> Greta, is LBW still on for ESL?
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> From: english-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Caruso, Greta
> Sent: Mon 30/11/2009 6:09 PM
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> Subject: RE: [English] Year 12 ESL English
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> 
> 
> Yes, the list is really sad for ESL.  We are doing:
> 
> Maestro
> 
> Look Both Ways
> 
> The Crucible
> 
> 
> 
> Really there are very few things to select from.
> 
> There are some really good recordings of Poe stuff on youtube and the 
> iTunes. It might help to have the kids hear the text read.
> 
> Good luck
> 
> Greta Caruso
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> From: english-bounces at edulists.com.au 
> [mailto:english-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Reynolds, Gail G
> Sent: Monday, 30 November 2009 4:34 PM
> To: VCE English Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: RE: [English] Year 12 ESL English
> 
> 
> 
> Rebecca is not the only one teaching Poe to ESL!
> 
> 
> 
> The 2010 list is terrible for ESL -- especially for our large cohort of 
> Chinese students who do not respond well to texts which contain swearing 
> or other things they find morally questionable (which automatically 
> excludes texts like Cosi). Other issues include texts which depend on a 
> recognition of Australian/European cultural references (such as Bypass 
> .. which in any case seems to me to lack the  depth which will promote 
> complex responses ) Some other selections from the text list are really 
> heavy going (both context and vocab) for the ESLs -- Shakespeare???
> 
> 
> 
> On the up side there are some excellent web resources for Poe many of 
> which will aid the ESL student. Once the POe stories are unpacked for 
> the students, they represent the kinds of stories which bear a 
> similarity to the oral traditions of many of our students.  We agonised 
> over our list and I read all the texts again in my quest for something 
> "good". I would be really interested to know what others have chosen for 
> ESL ... and why.
> 
> Gail
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> From: english-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Lyle Stebbing
> Sent: Sun 29/11/2009 8:58 PM
> To: VCE English Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [English] Year 12 ESL English
> 
> Dear Rebecca,
> 
> You're doing Poe with an ESL class????
> 
> Lyle
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> 
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