[Yr11 Information Technology] yr11it Digest, Vol 129, Issue 3
Matheson, Geoff J
matheson.geoff.j at edumail.vic.gov.au
Thu Dec 10 13:15:59 AEDT 2015
First up: Mark has to be right – having such obvious synonyms in the same KK point without any clarification is really silly.
But I wondered if accurate might more often refer to input – an accurate reflection of the real world, whereas correct might refer to output. E.g. if my max temperature for the day was 32 degrees C, and minimum temperature was 21 degrees – but it turns out my thermometer was in the sun – my results are inaccurate. But if I calculate that my temperature range was 111, then my results are incorrect.
Clearly we're at the end of the year when we start getting invested in these discussions…
Geoff Matheson
Leading Teacher: Teaching and Learning Coach – Classroom Support
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OK. I broke out the big guns and pulled out the mighty Shorter Oxford English Dictionary (volume 1).
It says (paraphrased):
Accurate
* exact or correct
* done with care
Correct
* free from error
* accurate
Gee. Thanks, SOED!
One interesting example I found online was this:
'Disciplining children is right, but physical punishment is not the correct way.'
'Accurate' cannot be substituted for "correct" in that example.
It seems that while "correct" is a superlative (something is either accurate or it's not), "accurate" is comparative, and allows a degree of exactness or precision.
How that helps the key knowledge, I don't know.
Perhaps it means that "data should be not wrong [correct] and closely resemble the actual value of the thing in the real world that they represent [accurate]".
Regards
Mark
On 10 December 2015 at 12:37, Mark <mark at vceit.com<mailto:mark at vceit.com>> wrote:
Hi Katherine. The ambiguity and overlap of the terms is a nuisance. Would it not also be correct or accurate (!) to say that
"
When calculating student attendance it would be
* inaccurate to only count days when students were in the classroom since excursions, incursions etc should also be included
* incorrect if someone has erroneously marked the student present, or absent"
I really wish VCAA would be more careful avoiding these lexical conundrums that only serve to confuse rather than elucidate the key knowledge.
Cheers
Mark
On 10 December 2015 at 12:19, Young, Katherine A <young.katherine.a at edumail.vic.gov.au<mailto:young.katherine.a at edumail.vic.gov.au>> wrote:
Hi Mark,
One possible interpretation:
* correctness means that the correct data items are collected/used to generate the required information
* accuracy means that the values of the (correctly chosen) data items are …. well, accurate!
Eg -
When calculating student attendance it would be
* incorrect to only count days when students were in the classroom since excursions, incursions etc should also be included
* inaccurate if someone has erroneously marked the student present, or absent
Your thoughts????
Regards,
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Katherine Young
11C Mentor
Mathematics & Information Technology Teacher
Castlemaine Secondary College
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U1O3 KK5 - 'factors affecting the integrity of data, such as correctness,
reasonableness and accuracy'
Your challenge for today is: Work out a way to explain the difference
between "correctness" and "accuracy" to a year 11 student. The prize is 50
brownie points.
Yes, I realise the terms are only given as examples in the study design,
and are not made mandatory by the word 'including', but I'm interested if
anyone can clearly tease out the difference between two terms usually
considered synonymous by everyone except scientists.
The only thing I can suggest is that "accuracy" means "correctness" (free
from error) but also has an whiff of 'precision' about it too...
e.g. storing Pi as "3.14" may be *correct*, but not as *accurate* as
"3.14159"
Good luck.
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Hi All,
A similar question was raised during my session at the DLTV in-service and in a nut shell (I can?t remember the excellent example that my audience provided):
I can cut a piece of wood to be 2003mm in length (accuracy), but if I should have cut a piece of metal it would not be correct.
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U1O3 KK5 - 'factors affecting the integrity of data, such as correctness, reasonableness and accuracy'
Your challenge for today is: Work out a way to explain the difference between "correctness" and "accuracy" to a year 11 student. The prize is 50 brownie points.
Yes, I realise the terms are only given as examples in the study design, and are not made mandatory by the word 'including', but I'm interested if anyone can clearly tease out the difference between two terms usually considered synonymous by everyone except scientists.
The only thing I can suggest is that "accuracy" means "correctness" (free from error) but also has an whiff of 'precision' about it too...
e.g. storing Pi as "3.14" may be correct, but not as accurate as "3.14159"
Good luck.
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Mark Kelly
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Like in maths; mark for correct answer but if not to the correct decimal places then lose a mark.
Or lose all marks sometimes if correct but not accurate.
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U1O3 KK5 - 'factors affecting the integrity of data, such as correctness, reasonableness and accuracy'
Your challenge for today is: Work out a way to explain the difference between "correctness" and "accuracy" to a year 11 student. The prize is 50 brownie points.
Yes, I realise the terms are only given as examples in the study design, and are not made mandatory by the word 'including', but I'm interested if anyone can clearly tease out the difference between two terms usually considered synonymous by everyone except scientists.
The only thing I can suggest is that "accuracy" means "correctness" (free from error) but also has an whiff of 'precision' about it too...
e.g. storing Pi as "3.14" may be correct, but not as accurate as "3.14159"
Good luck.
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Subject: [Yr11 Information Technology] Free Data Visualisation Online
Apps ?
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Hi everyone,
I am looking at Chapter 2 for VCE Computing, and need to know if anyone has some great online Infographic making software that is free and makes good products.
I know about Infogram https://infogr.am/ and Easelly http://www.easel.ly/
BUT
are there other ones like this, that are good to use for Y11 VCE Computing Unit 1 Outcome 1 ?
I have also found some videos:
Video About Infographics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQbFX2QzbOI
Animated Infographics are great like this one of the earth past and future
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XkV6IpV2Y0
and this one from "The Infographics Show" YouTube Channel on Obesity:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkoC3HZwe7Q
The Infographics Show channel on YouTube also has good presentations on water, and fast foods, and lots of other interesting topics.
Enjoy,
Paul Pascoe
ICT Teacher
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