[Yr11 Information Technology] Re: [Year 12 SofDev] RE: Ross
from Sunbury College
Judee Hobbs
judee.hobbs at lowanna.vic.edu.au
Wed Mar 5 11:22:50 EST 2008
I agree Mark. I generally have in the footer, the name of the original
author and then modified by me. However, for the attached modified ITA SAC 1
I do not know the original author? So, putting on the mailing list this SAC
but asking who the original author was.
Judee Forscutt-Hobbs
Lowanna College
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Subject: [Yr11 Information Technology] Re: [Year 12 SofDev] RE: Ross from
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(I've X-posted to the ITA and year 11 IT lists. Apols in advance.)
I see an interesting and potentially worrying point developing here.
If we adapt other people's tasks, I think we are obliged to retain the
version information contained in the task and note ourselves as
modifiers and let that info stay with the document in its further travels.
I know I would be horrified if a task I created was later 'improved' by
some anonymous person, thereby damaging it or (even worse) rendering it
a violation of VCAA rules - with my name still proudly stuck on it as if
I were solely responsible for its current condition!
When we distribute 'adapted' tasks, I recommend that we:
1. Of course, retain the original author's identity and document version
number, if they are in the document. Give the poor authors credit for
their labours!
2. Add yourself to the credits as a 'modifier'.
3. Maybe even summarise your changes (and reasons?) in an addendum at
the end of the document. This addendum can be removed for printing
purposes by people who use it later, but it otherwise travels with the
document as it morphs through the ether.
Cheers
Mark
Poultney, Gordon A wrote:
> i made up the original 'Shagadelic' which sounds like it has morphed
into something else. There is only 1 network diagram in the original - for
the new system .there is/was a marking scheme and complete network diagram
for the teacher too.
> cheers Gordon
>
> ----------------
> Gordon Poultney
> Horsham College
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Maggie Iaquinto
> Sent: Wed 5/3/08 9:14
> To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: RE: [Year 12 SofDev] RE: Ross from Sunbury College
>
>
>
> Ross
>
> Ross
>
> If you were using this practice SAC as the actual one, it would be
> difficult to separate the marks for Task 1 (systems analysis and design
> - mistakenly called Task 2 here) from Task 2 (network diagram). You are
> required to report the marks for the tasks clearly and discretely.
>
> Task 1 is 40 marks and Task 2 is 10 marks -- based on 50 for the
> Outcome.
> In the assessment sheet nearly 25 marks of the 50 are devoted to the
> network diagram. This makes it tough to report accurately to VCAA just
> what your students have received, in terms of the balance of 40/10.
>
> Task 2 (network diagram) must be for the proposed new system and this
> document requires the student to diagram the current and the new. Sure,
> you can do that but it isn't necessary.
>
> I notice also that there are marks given to presentation of the report.
> IMHO I would put those marks into a more finely-grained assessment of
> all the other Key Skills required in this Outcome.
>
> Just an opinion.
>
> Maggie
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au
> [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Mark Kelly
> Sent: Wednesday, 5 March 2008 8:36 AM
> To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] RE: Ross from Sunbury College
>
> If the task extended across the holidays, make sure the remaining part
> is not given to them beforehand so they can't pre-produce stuff.
>
> Claudia Graham wrote:
>> Hi Ross,
>>
>>
>>
>> Re the practice SAC not sure who's that is so can't help there
>>
>>
>>
>> Regarding the use of the internet not something I have done or would
> do,
>> for me it would be too hard to 'patrol'. But as long as all students
>> have the same conditions it doesn't matter (mind you I don't have a
>> study design or assessment hand book beside me to check re conditions)
>>
>>
>>
>> Same for the time frame, I assume you mean a lesson or two prior to
> the
>> holidays and then some after (or similar), not something I would do
> just
>> for authentication purposes. I would do it all in a few lessons; I
> don't
>> even like weekends between assessment lessons if I can help it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Claudia Graham
>>
>> Overnewton College
>>
>> Keilor
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> *From:* sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au
>> [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] *On Behalf Of *Ogilvie, Ross A
>> *Sent:* 4 March 2008 7:50 PM
>> *To:* sofdev at edulists.com.au
>> *Subject:* Ross from Sunbury College
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>>
>>
>> In regard to SD I have a couple of questions.
>>
>>
>>
>> 1. I have given my class a **Practice SAC** called **Shagadelic
>> Carpets** (refer to attachment) (hope the author is OK with this). My
>
>> question is....does anyone have the solutions so I can check if I am
> on
>> the right track.
>>
>>
>>
>> 2. When I give my students the actual SAC:
>>
>>
>>
>> i. Can/should they access the internet.
>>
>> ii. Would there be a problem (in Vic) if the SAC extended through
> the
>> Term One holiday period into Term Two.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kindest Regards
>>
>>
>>
>> **Ross Ogilvie **
>>
>> **LSF ICT Leader **
>>
>> **Sunbury**** College**
>>
>> **30 Racecourse Rd****, Sunbury 3429**
>>
>> **Ph (W) 9744 1066 **
>>
>> ** (H) 54272843**
>>
>> **Bookmarks: http://del.icio.us/Ross1956**
>>
>> **Wiki: http://ross1956.wikispaces.com/**
>>
>>
>>
>>
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