[Yr11 Information Technology] Running out of time
Kent Beveridge
kbeveridge at stbc.vic.edu.au
Thu Jun 28 10:10:22 EST 2007
Hi Donna,
Yes, its a good course of Russell's. I came across it last year at CohunaSC. The students there use it and I have used it as a result. Self paced and enjoyable. It can also be modified if you want.
In short, it works.
Also, if you are short on time and 'learning curve challenged' (like me!), then do the programming outcome second, not first, thats how I am dealing with it. Gives me more time to come to grips with some new stuff.
Cheers
Kent Beveridge,
I.T. co-ordinator
St. Brigids Catholic Sec. College
Horsham
email.. kbeveridge at stbc.vic.edu.au
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From: yr11it-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Donna Stalker
Sent: Thu 6/28/2007 9:12 AM
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Subject: RE: [Yr11 Information Technology] Running out of time
I also rushed through what should have been a high light in unit 1 as this was the area the girls were most looking forward to studying. For programming I purchased Russell Boyles' Java Scripting for Beginners, you can purchase a site license for under $200 its perfect as all lessons are easy to follow and saves me a lot of work (which is always a good thing)
The web site is
http://www.russellboyle.com/javascriptbeginners.html
However I do have the advantage of my students already having completed the HTML for beginners' course last year.
cheers
Donna Stalker
Head of Curriculum Years 8 & 9
Ivanhoe Girls' Grammar School
123 Marshall Street
Ivanhoe VIC 3079
Tel: (03) 9490 6256
Fax: (03) 9490 6200
email: dstalker at ivanhoegirls.vic.edu.au
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Subject: [Yr11 Information Technology] Running out of time
G'day
I too ran out of time and the last ICT issue was quite rushed, and
generally poorly done (by me)
Am now trying to wrap my head around scripting
Regards
Michael leverett (Yarrawonga)
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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 10:27:47 +1000 (EST)
From: "fiona bain" <fiona at balmoralhs.vic.edu.au>
Subject: Re: [Yr11 Information Technology] Re: the new syllabus and
some general comments
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Not sure who to make this feedback, nor whether it was just me who
encountered this problem with Unit 1. I ran out of time. I took so
long with the database and the original web page/publication for outcome
2 that outcome 3 will need to be finished in the first week of next
term.
Perhaps I made the mistake of having a web page for outcome 2 and should
have used some other form of publication?
Unit 3 worked much better for us because it dropped down to 2 outcomes,
although my students (one of whom is very pedantic) struggled with
making a proto-type - he wanted the real deal nor could he see the logic
of putting the networking part with the web site (dont think he was
alone there).
Anyway I just thought this was a good time to find out how others felt
and perhaps pass the message on up the line (unless it was just me being
more disorganised than usual!). This will be the last thing I get
involved with, I think, as I finish teaching IT next Friday. I am off
to Brunei in August to teach Business Studies.
I have used this list daily for the last 7 years and, without it, would
never have coped. I just want to say a huge big thanks to everyone who
posts. Keep up the great work. In Scotland, where I am originally from,
they have a saying - lang may yer lum reek - may you always have coal in
your fireplace - or may you always have good fortune
--
Fiona Bain, Balmoral High School
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 11:17:34 +1000
From: Mark Kelly <kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au>
Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Re: [Yr11 Information Technology] Re:
the new syllabus and some general comments
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Apologies for Xposts.
This year was hard in IT11 and ITA because of the large amount of new
skills that needed to be taught for the first time - especially
databases in ITA... why that had to be the FIRST outcome I'll never
know: a very odd bit of planning, I thought.
I know I spent a LOT more time than usual on developing practical skills
in semester 1 ITA. I hope to get time back for theory in sem 2
because for my kids spreadsheets and web authoring are easy peasy.
Also, ITA U4O2 is a short and sweet test stemming from normal theory so
time need not be spent on learning yet another tool.
Anyway, we are all (I'm sure) madly rejigging our junior classes so the
new VCE IT skill requirements are introduced in the lower levels so
there won't be the precipitous learning curve we faced this year.
For example, the year 11 kids having done databases and programming this
year will find ITA databasing and SD programming easier next year.
fiona bain wrote:
> Not sure who to make this feedback, nor whether it was just me who
> encountered this problem with Unit 1. I ran out of time. I took so
long
> with the database and the original web page/publication for outcome 2
that
> outcome 3 will need to be finished in the first week of next term.
>
> Perhaps I made the mistake of having a web page for outcome 2 and
should
> have used some other form of publication?
>
> Unit 3 worked much better for us because it dropped down to 2
outcomes,
> although my students (one of whom is very pedantic) struggled with
making
> a proto-type - he wanted the real deal nor could he see the logic of
> putting the networking part with the web site (dont think he was alone
> there).
>
> Anyway I just thought this was a good time to find out how others felt
and
> perhaps pass the message on up the line (unless it was just me being
more
> disorganised than usual!). This will be the last thing I get involved
> with, I think, as I finish teaching IT next Friday. I am off to
Brunei in
> August to teach Business Studies.
>
> I have used this list daily for the last 7 years and, without it,
would
> never have coped. I just want to say a huge big thanks to everyone
who
> posts. Keep up the great work. In Scotland, where I am originally
from,
> they have a saying - lang may yer lum reek - may you always have coal
in
> your fireplace - or may you always have good fortune
>
>
--
Mark Kelly
Manager - Information Systems
McKinnon Secondary College
McKinnon Rd McKinnon 3204, Victoria, Australia
Direct line / Voicemail: 8520 9085
School Phone +613 8520 9000
School Fax +613 95789253
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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 11:37:04 +1000
From: "Kevork Krozian" <Kroset at novell1.fhc.vic.edu.au>
Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Re: [Yr11 Information Technology] Re:
the new syllabus and some general commen
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Hi Folks,
Definitely too much to squeeze into a single year. Outcomes had to be
churned out every 5 to 6 weeks - a very tall order for students with no
prerequisite required.
Also, the attempt to filter down Yr 12 and higher content into Yr 11 has
overcrowded the course.
Decent web design( html , graphical manipulation, forms, validation,
etc, ) decent database skill acquisition ( tables, reports,
relationships, validation, forms, mail merge, etc ) can't be done from
scratch in 6 weeks inclusive of assessment with 3 x 72 min periods to
say nothing of missed lessons , assemblies etc.
And now I am trying it again with programming in a new language ...
Too much quantity , too little quality.
Just my thoughts ..
Kevork
>>> Mark Kelly <kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au> 21/06/2007 11:17 am >>>
Apologies for Xposts.
This year was hard in IT11 and ITA because of the large amount of new
skills that needed to be taught for the first time - especially
databases in ITA... why that had to be the FIRST outcome I'll never
know: a very odd bit of planning, I thought.
I know I spent a LOT more time than usual on developing practical skills
in semester 1 ITA. I hope to get time back for theory in sem 2
because for my kids spreadsheets and web authoring are easy peasy.
Also, ITA U4O2 is a short and sweet test stemming from normal theory so
time need not be spent on learning yet another tool.
Anyway, we are all (I'm sure) madly rejigging our junior classes so the
new VCE IT skill requirements are introduced in the lower levels so
there won't be the precipitous learning curve we faced this year.
For example, the year 11 kids having done databases and programming this
year will find ITA databasing and SD programming easier next year.
fiona bain wrote:
> Not sure who to make this feedback, nor whether it was just me who
> encountered this problem with Unit 1. I ran out of time. I took so
long
> with the database and the original web page/publication for outcome 2
that
> outcome 3 will need to be finished in the first week of next term.
>
> Perhaps I made the mistake of having a web page for outcome 2 and
should
> have used some other form of publication?
>
> Unit 3 worked much better for us because it dropped down to 2
outcomes,
> although my students (one of whom is very pedantic) struggled with
making
> a proto-type - he wanted the real deal nor could he see the logic of
> putting the networking part with the web site (dont think he was alone
> there).
>
> Anyway I just thought this was a good time to find out how others felt
and
> perhaps pass the message on up the line (unless it was just me being
more
> disorganised than usual!). This will be the last thing I get involved
> with, I think, as I finish teaching IT next Friday. I am off to
Brunei in
> August to teach Business Studies.
>
> I have used this list daily for the last 7 years and, without it,
would
> never have coped. I just want to say a huge big thanks to everyone
who
> posts. Keep up the great work. In Scotland, where I am originally
from,
> they have a saying - lang may yer lum reek - may you always have coal
in
> your fireplace - or may you always have good fortune
>
>
--
Mark Kelly
Manager - Information Systems
McKinnon Secondary College
McKinnon Rd McKinnon 3204, Victoria, Australia
Direct line / Voicemail: 8520 9085
School Phone +613 8520 9000
School Fax +613 95789253
kel AT mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au
Webmaster - http://www.mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au <http://www.mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au/>
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Moderator: IT Applications Mailing List
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and those who don't.
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