[vet-it] Attn Peter Nash re Quentin's predicament..

Fri Aug 13 15:12:15 EST 2010

A am aware of the course codes for the training package - but the VASS
system still records some or most of the old ones. This should not
hinder VASS results but just remember when dealing with your RTOs you
are assessing to the newer version of the training package. Note only
the suffix letter has been altered with slight variations to the
elements in the newer units.

Hopefully this clarifies things, thanks Rao for the email

Regards

Peter Nash

IT Teacher, VET Co-ordinator and VCAA State Reviewer (VCE VET IT)

Galvin Park Secondary College

Shaws Road 

WERRIBEE. Vic. 3030

Tel: (03) 97414911

Mobile: 0412770940

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From: vet-it-bounces at edulists.com.au
[mailto:vet-it-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Kent Beveridge
Sent: Friday, 13 August 2010 10:20 AM
To: Vet Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: Re: [vet-it] Attn Peter Nash re Quentin's predicament..

Hi Rao!

Whatcha think on this one...Cert 2 or 3 or combo?  Stream?

Seems like one of those 'inherited courses' that we dread...you know
what I mean?

I got sympathy for Quentin.

I'm now getting to the latter stages of the scored assessment stuff
here. Its a new stream for my RTO (the scored assessment stuff that is),
so its an interesting learning curve for us both...but it IS happening
fairly smoothly with just smallish stress..

KB.

Kent Beveridge

ICT Co-ordinator, St.Brigids CSC, HORSHAM,Vic,Aus.

________________________________

From: vet-it-bounces at edulists.com.au [vet-it-bounces at edulists.com.au] on
behalf of Rao Diwakar [rdiwakar at kangan.edu.au]
Sent: Friday, 13 August 2010 8:22 AM
To: 'Vet Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [vet-it] Attn Peter Nash re Quentin's predicament..

Hi,

Most of the unit codes are wrong. As per ICA05 v3, the codes must be as
below

BSBCMN106A                                    Follow Workplace Safety
Procedures

ICAD2012A                                          Design Organisational
Documents Using Computing Packages

ICAI3021A           ICAI3021B            Connect Internal Hardware
Components 

ICAI3110A           ICAI3110C            Implement System Software
Changes

ICAS3032A          ICAS3032B           Provide Network Systems
Administration

ICAS3121A          ICAS3121B           Administer Network Peripherals   

ICAS3234B                                           Care For Computer
Hardware

ICAU1128A         ICAU1128B          Operate A Personal Computer 

ICAD2005A          ICAU2005B          Operate Computer Hardware

ICAD2006A          ICAU2006B          Operate Computing Packages

ICAU2013A         ICAU2013B          Integrate Commercial Computing
Packages

ICAU2231A         ICAU2231B          Use Computer Operating System

ICAU3019A         ICAU3019B          Migrate to New Technology

ICAW2001A        ICAW2001B         Work Effectively In An IT Environment

ICAW2002A        ICAW2002B         Communicate In The Workplace

ICPMM321A       ICPMM321B       Capture A Digital Image

Kind Regards,

Rao Diwakar

Project Manager - EQUELLA

Organisation Development and Improvement

Kangan Institute (Broadmeadows campus)

Postal Address Private Bag 299 Somerton VIC 3062
P: +61 3 9279 2572
Website http://www.kangan.edu.au/

From: vet-it-bounces at edulists.com.au
[mailto:vet-it-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Kent Beveridge
Sent: Thursday, 12 August 2010 16:36
To: Vet Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: [vet-it] Attn Peter Nash re Quentin's predicament..

Sounds to me like you need to now make contact with your VASS person
there and determine from them, the details of course name, stream etc. 

ie..have they enrolled the students as Cert 2 or Cert 3? 

Do you plan to do scored assessment, or has it been done/started? If YES
to this one..has an assessment plan been submitted via VASS, or not?(to
the VASS person for system entry).

Looks like a combo of software and hardware units from your list.

Are you being auspiced by an RTO?  Or is your school an RTO?

Or..this might just be a course "tailored to the needs of the learners"?

Are there individual training plans?

An overall training plan?

ATTACHED: I have attached my training plans for my Cert 2 and 3 courses
plus, my VCAA 'Assessment Plan'  that I am following for my Cert 3
course. Also attached is an official pdf doc that you perhaps could
browse and maybe this could clear up some questions...

have a look and see if these link to what you have. If they help
...thats great.   

Here is the link to the VCAA vet stuff that you should have a squiz
at...it may answer a few of your questions..

http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vet/programs/infotech/infotech.html

Sounds to me like your setup has heaps of potential to do 'a lot in a
hurry!' depending on how NOS and OS 'savvy' you are!

Any more questions..if I can help I will!!

Hey, just thought of a great idea Quentin...give the folk at the VCAA a
call(VET studies unit) and have a yak if you're not sure...surely they
can perhaps give you some good help too.

You've got my email now for further chats....

Hey Nashy...you've entered lots of these...what's your thought here?

Kent Beveridge

ICT Co-ordinator, St.Brigids CSC, HORSHAM,Vic,Aus.

________________________________

From: vet-it-bounces at edulists.com.au [vet-it-bounces at edulists.com.au] on
behalf of Lydall, Quentin C [lydall.quentin.c at edumail.vic.gov.au]
Sent: Thursday, 12 August 2010 2:13 PM
To: Vet Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: Re: [vet-it] Is this list really retired?

Thanks for the contact, Kent, Peter, it's good to be in touch with
teachers who know more about this course.  No one here at Heywood knows
exactly what stream we are doing.  I inherited the class from another
teacher, who left no concrete information.  There is a fair bit of
networking involved, so I think that is their stream.  Could you please
enlighten me?  

The modules the students are enrolled in are:

BSBCMN106A Follow Workplace Safety Procedures

ICAD2012A Design Organisational Documents Using Computing Packages

ICAI3021A Connect Internal Hardware Components

ICAI3110A Implement System Software Changes

ICAS3032A Provide Network Systems Administration

ICAS3121A Administer Network Peripherals

ICAS3234B Care For Computer Hardware

ICAU1128A Operate A Personal Computer

ICAD2005A Operate Computer Hardware

ICAD2006A Operate Computing Packages

ICAU2013A Integrate Commercial Computing Packages

ICAU2231A Use Computer Operating System

ICAU3019A Migrate to New Technology

ICAW2001A Work Effectively In An IT Environment

ICAW2002A Communicate In The Workplace

ICPMM321A Capture A Digital Image

I have downloaded the NTIS documents which define the criteria for each
module.  So far, I am assessing using several methods, including
observation, checking the required hours are done, assessing submitted
work based on the NTIS assessment criteria.  I have also given them some
online theory tests (using Moodle).  

We have a room with, potentially, a stand-alone network.  There is a
server which the students have configured, a switch, and a desktop PC
for each student.  I had the CAT cable ordered along with the ducting,
but these were delivered to the builders doing the government funded
building (!). They sent it to their warehouse and cannot trace it (!!).
When this is finally resolved, we can finish building the network and
they will do the software and peripherals administration, etc. 

These students respond best to more practical activities, so getting in
60 hours of designing organisational documents using computing packages
is quite a challenge.  They enjoyed dismantling the dozens of ancient
PCs which cluttered the store rooms, and then used the hardware
knowledge they acquired to alter their own PCs - add more memory, add
another disk drive, etc.  They also get to install any new software
which the school gets. 

One of the girls told me today that her Nanna bought a computer on the
weekend, and she put it all together for her and installed the software.
She was very proud  because her Nanna was so impressed.  This is a great
course to teach, but I would appreciate any tips and help from more
experienced VET IT teachers (I previously taught VCE units 1-4).

Thanks,

Quentin Lydall

Heywood & District Secondary College

From: vet-it-bounces at edulists.com.au
[mailto:vet-it-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Kent Beveridge
Sent: Monday, 9 August 2010 11:21 AM
To: Vet Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: Re: [vet-it] Is this list really retired?

Hi Quentin,

what stream are you doing?

General, NetAdmin or Software?

I'm doing the NetAdmin stream.

Peter Nash, Kevork and a crew of others are also doing it.

Are you doing the scored assessment stuff or not? (my lot are).

KB.

Kent Beveridge

ICT Co-ordinator, St.Brigids CSC, HORSHAM,Vic,Aus.

________________________________

From: vet-it-bounces at edulists.com.au [vet-it-bounces at edulists.com.au] on
behalf of Lydall, Quentin C [lydall.quentin.c at edumail.vic.gov.au]
Sent: Monday, 9 August 2010 9:40 AM
To: vet-it at edulists.com.au
Subject: [vet-it] Is this list really retired?

Hi, I've picked up a VET IT Cert 3 class, lovely kids and interesting
course but I'd like to share with other VET IT teachers.  Is this list
still active?

Quentin Lydall - Heywood & District Secondary College

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