[vet-it] Attn Peter Nash re Quentin's predicament..

[Kent Beveridge]

Sounds to me like you need to now make contact with your VASS person there and determine from them, the details of course name, stream etc.
ie..have they enrolled the students as Cert 2 or Cert 3?
Do you plan to do scored assessment, or has it been done/started? If YES to this one..has an assessment plan been submitted via VASS, or not?(to the VASS person for system entry).

Looks like a combo of software and hardware units from your list.

Are you being auspiced by an RTO?  Or is your school an RTO?

Or..this might just be a course "tailored to the needs of the learners"?
Are there individual training plans?
An overall training plan?

ATTACHED: I have attached my training plans for my Cert 2 and 3 courses plus, my VCAA 'Assessment Plan'  that I am following for my Cert 3 course. Also attached is an official pdf doc that you perhaps could browse and maybe this could clear up some questions...
have a look and see if these link to what you have. If they help ...thats great.

Here is the link to the VCAA vet stuff that you should have a squiz at...it may answer a few of your questions..
http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vet/programs/infotech/infotech.html

Sounds to me like your setup has heaps of potential to do 'a lot in a hurry!' depending on how NOS and OS 'savvy' you are!

Any more questions..if I can help I will!!

Hey, just thought of a great idea Quentin...give the folk at the VCAA a call(VET studies unit) and have a yak if you're not sure...surely they can perhaps give you some good help too.
You've got my email now for further chats....

Hey Nashy...you've entered lots of these...what's your thought here?

Kent Beveridge
ICT Co-ordinator, St.Brigids CSC, HORSHAM,Vic,Aus.
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From: vet-it-bounces at edulists.com.au [vet-it-bounces at edulists.com.au] on behalf of Lydall, Quentin C [lydall.quentin.c at edumail.vic.gov.au]
Sent: Thursday, 12 August 2010 2:13 PM
To: Vet Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: Re: [vet-it] Is this list really retired?

Thanks for the contact, Kent, Peter, it’s good to be in touch with teachers who know more about this course.  No one here at Heywood knows exactly what stream we are doing.  I inherited the class from another teacher, who left no concrete information.  There is a fair bit of networking involved, so I think that is their stream.  Could you please enlighten me?

The modules the students are enrolled in are:

BSBCMN106A Follow Workplace Safety Procedures
ICAD2012A Design Organisational Documents Using Computing Packages
ICAI3021A Connect Internal Hardware Components
ICAI3110A Implement System Software Changes
ICAS3032A Provide Network Systems Administration
ICAS3121A Administer Network Peripherals
ICAS3234B Care For Computer Hardware
ICAU1128A Operate A Personal Computer
ICAD2005A Operate Computer Hardware
ICAD2006A Operate Computing Packages
ICAU2013A Integrate Commercial Computing Packages
ICAU2231A Use Computer Operating System
ICAU3019A Migrate to New Technology
ICAW2001A Work Effectively In An IT Environment
ICAW2002A Communicate In The Workplace
ICPMM321A Capture A Digital Image

I have downloaded the NTIS documents which define the criteria for each module.  So far, I am assessing using several methods, including observation, checking the required hours are done, assessing submitted work based on the NTIS assessment criteria.  I have also given them some online theory tests (using Moodle).

We have a room with, potentially, a stand-alone network.  There is a server which the students have configured, a switch, and a desktop PC for each student.  I had the CAT cable ordered along with the ducting, but these were delivered to the builders doing the government funded building (!). They sent it to their warehouse and cannot trace it (!!).  When this is finally resolved, we can finish building the network and they will do the software and peripherals administration, etc.

These students respond best to more practical activities, so getting in 60 hours of designing organisational documents using computing packages is quite a challenge.  They enjoyed dismantling the dozens of ancient PCs which cluttered the store rooms, and then used the hardware knowledge they acquired to alter their own PCs – add more memory, add another disk drive, etc.  They also get to install any new software which the school gets.

One of the girls told me today that her Nanna bought a computer on the weekend, and she put it all together for her and installed the software.  She was very proud  because her Nanna was so impressed.  This is a great course to teach, but I would appreciate any tips and help from more experienced VET IT teachers (I previously taught VCE units 1-4).

Thanks,
Quentin Lydall
Heywood & District Secondary College

From: vet-it-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:vet-it-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Kent Beveridge
Sent: Monday, 9 August 2010 11:21 AM
To: Vet Information Technology Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: Re: [vet-it] Is this list really retired?

Hi Quentin,
what stream are you doing?
General, NetAdmin or Software?
I'm doing the NetAdmin stream.

Peter Nash, Kevork and a crew of others are also doing it.

Are you doing the scored assessment stuff or not? (my lot are).

KB.

Kent Beveridge
ICT Co-ordinator, St.Brigids CSC, HORSHAM,Vic,Aus.
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From: vet-it-bounces at edulists.com.au [vet-it-bounces at edulists.com.au] on behalf of Lydall, Quentin C [lydall.quentin.c at edumail.vic.gov.au]
Sent: Monday, 9 August 2010 9:40 AM
To: vet-it at edulists.com.au
Subject: [vet-it] Is this list really retired?
Hi, I’ve picked up a VET IT Cert 3 class, lovely kids and interesting course but I’d like to share with other VET IT teachers.  Is this list still active?
Quentin Lydall – Heywood & District Secondary College

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