[Systems Engineering Teachers' Mailing List] syseng Digest, Vol 100, Issue 1

Neville YOUNG NYO at gwsc.vic.edu.au
Tue Oct 8 13:07:26 EST 2013


Hi Roger,

The correct answer is to increase the diameter of the wire. 
This will reduce the resistance of the wire. 
If you use V= I x R then the voltage drop actross this length of wire will decrease because of its lower resistance.

Cheers
Neville.

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Thanks Brendan Neville and Rob for your comments on this issue.

This question was in the multiple choice section. Exam assessors don't get to check these. They're marked by computer.

Another question that presents a problem for me is Q 12. Increasing the csa of a conductor would indeed reduce the resistance. But the voltage drop would decrease in the wiring. So wouldn't the volt meter would have to read higher?

Any thoughts

Best regards ... Roger

Roger Knight
Technology Faculty
St Patrick's College
1431 Sturt Street
BALLARAT 3350 VIC
5331 1688

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Hi Roger,

The suggested answer for question 19 of last year's exam is definitely wrong! The correct answer is B (as you suggested).
We are using NAND gates, some of which are configured as INVERTER gates.

A   B   Output
0   0        1
0   1        0
1   0        0
1   1        0

Hope this helps!


Regards
Brendan D'Arcy
Senior Teacher / Head of Department (Electronics/Engineering)


Kardinia International College
PO Box 17, Geelong, Victoria, 3220, Australia
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Hi all



On Q 19 of last years systems exam the assessment report has the answer as C. I'm thinking B. Any thoughts?



Regards ... Roger



Roger Knight
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BALLARAT 3350 VIC
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Hi, we are desperate for a Metals/ Timber teacher at Springwood High School, term 4 2013. The two people that said they were interested have let us down at the last minute. Block should last at least the first 5 weeks if not the entire term. The job will be filled at some point in the future. Please, please, please, if anyone has projects that these classes can complete with a non trained teacher (maybe my only option)  I am desperate for help. I would love to hear from anyone who can assist with project ideas or who would like the job. Pls ring 0408363731. Thanks.
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Hi Roger



B is the correct answer.I hope that the assessment report didn't match the correction sheet used by examiners.



Neville Young

Glen Waverley Sec Coll

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Hi all



On Q 19 of last years systems exam the assessment report has the answer as C. I'm thinking B. Any thoughts?



Regards ... Roger



Roger Knight
Technology Faculty
St Patrick's College
1431 Sturt Street
BALLARAT 3350 VIC
5331 1688
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Hi, we are desperate for a Metals/ Timber teacher at Springwood High School, term 4 2013. The two people that said they were interested have let us down at the last minute. Block should last at least the first 5 weeks if not the entire term. The job will be filled at some point in the future. Please, please, please, if anyone has projects that these classes can complete with a non trained teacher (maybe my only option)  I am desperate for help. I would love to hear from anyone who can assist with project ideas or who would like the job. Pls ring 0408363731. Thanks.
Leisa Stone
Head Teacher TAS
Springwood High School
Promoting Excellence in a Supportive Environment Phone 4751 2111
Fax     4751 1677

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I'd also pick B.

Regards

Rob

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On 07/10/2013, at 2:05 PM, Roger Knight <RKnight at stpats.vic.edu.au> wrote:

> Hi all
>
> On Q 19 of last years systems exam the assessment report has the answer as C. I'm thinking B. Any thoughts?
>
> Regards ... Roger
>
> Roger Knight
> Technology Faculty
> St Patrick's College
> 1431 Sturt Street
> BALLARAT 3350 VIC
> 5331 1688
> From: syseng-bounces at edulists.com.au [syseng-bounces at edulists.com.au]
> on behalf of Gosbee, Leisa [LEISA.GOSBEE at det.nsw.edu.au]
> Sent: Tuesday, 24 September 2013 11:33 AM
> To: syseng at edulists.com.au
> Subject: [Systems Engineering Teachers' Mailing List] (no subject)
>
> Hi, we are desperate for a Metals/ Timber teacher at Springwood High School, term 4 2013. The two people that said they were interested have let us down at the last minute. Block should last at least the first 5 weeks if not the entire term. The job will be filled at some point in the future. Please, please, please, if anyone has projects that these classes can complete with a non trained teacher (maybe my only option)  I am desperate for help. I would love to hear from anyone who can assist with project ideas or who would like the job. Pls ring 0408363731. Thanks.
> Leisa Stone
> Head Teacher TAS
> Springwood High School
> Promoting Excellence in a Supportive Environment Phone 4751 2111
> Fax     4751 1677
>
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