[Year 12 SofDev] Real world problem

Chris Bucknell Chris.Bucknell at haileybury.vic.edu.au
Tue Apr 2 22:35:25 UTC 2019


Hi David,

James is 100% correct.  Choose the technology that is most appropriate for the solution.  It the solution is a data driven web solution then a database would be most appropriate.  If the solution is a native mobile app and requires storing state data locally then an XML file might be appropriate.

XML is accessible on the exam but that doesn’t mean we should just use it for all data storage.  We taught it in U3AoS1 – and might have even used it as part of SAC, but that doesn’t mean that we should just use this one technology.

The SAT gives our students the opportunity to experience the fun of developing a complex software solution that is relevant to them and part of that is to pick the technology that is most appropriate.  And with the study design having the key knowledge point:

  *   “formatting and structural characteristics of input and output, including XML file formats”
then choosing the appropriate technology ensure that students will actually need to understand this.

Also for VB.Net it not really that bad to get data out of an access database if you use ADO.net with an OleDb data provider and DON’T bind the controls to the dataset (email me directly if you want my resources).

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From: sofdev <sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au> On Behalf Of Victoria Farrell
Sent: Wednesday, 3 April 2019 8:54 AM
To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List <sofdev at edulists.com.au>
Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Real world problem

I recommend making sure students use XML because it’s on the exam.

Access can be tricky. Search for “Firchild” on YouTube. He has made about 7 videos on how to set up an Access db with VB.

Good luck.


On Wed, 3 Apr 2019 at 7:56 am, James Vella <James.Vella at avemaria.vic.edu.au<mailto:James.Vella at avemaria.vic.edu.au>> wrote:
Hi David

Over the years, linking in with Access databases was just one way that my students did it. Some used SQL databases (using XAMPP – pretty safe if students only have the virtual servers on when they are using it), other have used plain-text files, whilst others XML files.

Ultimately which external storage technology students use should be dependent on the solution’s needs. What is the best storage technology that meets my needs and is feasible?

JV


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From: sofdev <sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au<mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au>> On Behalf Of David B Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, 2 April 2019 8:23 PM
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Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Real world problem

Thank you very much for your help. It is great to see the level of the projects.
I wonder if I can also ask you / anyone what technology you resort to for the ‘design, construct and use of external storage’ within the programming requirements?
I have been looking at interfacing VB.net<http://VB.net> with an access database. Is that a common way to achieve the external storage requirements?
Thank you.

David.
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From: sofdev <sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au<mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au>> On Behalf Of Victoria Farrell
Sent: Monday, April 1, 2019 7:30 AM
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Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Real world problem

Hi David,

I have had a wide range of SAT projects:


  *   A game to assist children learn to do basic mathematics (Client: parent)
  *   Administration for a shopping centre valet service (Client: CEO of  a shopping centre)
  *   Class/Room timetable system (Clients: teacher and a hair dresser)
  *   Booking systems for resources at school, small businesses  (Client: Teacher or sole trader)
  *   Financial management systems (Client: parent/ sole trader)
  *   Health Apps to read in data from wearable technology - or monitor social media use(Client: sports people, gamer addicts)

Hope that helps.
Vic



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On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 4:14 PM David B Thomas <david.b.thomas at rmit.edu.au<mailto:david.b.thomas at rmit.edu.au>> wrote:
Also, as this is my first year with Software Development (the course not the skill) does anyone please have any examples whatsoever of a ‘real world problem or opportunity’ called for by the Software Development Administrative information for school based assessment 2019?

Just one or two that students have selected in the past would be helpful to look at.
Thanks,
David.

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