[Year 12 SofDev] Another brick in the software wall

Robert Hind robert at yinnar.com
Mon Oct 28 17:11:00 EST 2013


Yes Tim, I do remember Honeywell and DEC and Burroughs. Not sure if I used any of them however. When I was at UEA in 1973-74 doing my Masters we just called it the computer centre, worked on programs during the day, put in our jobs at night (punched cards) to get most memory (25K if I remember correctly) and collected output in the morning. At Lancaster in 1975-76 we had advanced to input at a terminal rather than needing to use cards. Had access to SPSS and another stats program the name of which eludes me.

Robert Hind
Retired
Ex Traralgon and Ashwood
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Robert Timmer-Arends 
  To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List 
  Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 4:49 PM
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  Who remembers Honeywell? Anyone?

  Yes, and DEC and Burroughs and ...

  Regards
  Robert T-A
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Savage, John L 
    To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List 
    Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 9:55 AM
    Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Another brick in the software wall


    Back in Planning Branch in Telstra we had an oh so cool Apple IIE beefed up to 64k (I think that was the maximum RAM) running Visicalc and Zardax. It cut weeks of drudge-work off my work schedule (I was a forecaster calculating regressions, weighted smoothed averages and Box-Jenkins data smoothing routines to model sales and traffic).  The high point of the poor beast's usage was using it as a dumb terminal to control SPSS on a Honeywell Mainframe.  

    Laurie Savage

    http://accelerus.pvgc.vic.edu.au

     

    From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Kent Beveridge
    Sent: Wednesday, 23 October 2013 10:33 PM
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    Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Another brick in the software wall

     

    Walking from the maths building to the computer centre with the punched cards....been there, done that!...RMIT.circa 1982.

    Bfn!

    Kent Beveridge 

    ICT Coordinator & Maths teacher


    On 23 Oct 2013, at 9:18 pm, "Andrew Shortell" <shortell at get2me.net> wrote:

      I do believe you could perhaps add letters after your name 

       

      I hereby confer AD(companion) upon you.

      You rate the halo of companion to the glorious order of associate dinosaurs as you can still remember what you did with the items under discussion.

       

      I recently disposed of archived punch cards and mark sense cards from 1978 when i was at uni which I used to input my programmes into the computers.

       

      (for those under 55 we used to punch all of the cards (using a terminal), take them in large boxes to the computer building, hand them over and come back 12 - 20 hours later to get our print outs.

      after a couple of box drops I started to sequentially number my cards on the obverse side ...)

       

      it was a lot of fun and we felt we were exploring new frontiers. I enjoyed it.

      now we are exploring different new frontiers in pedagogy with 1:1, flipped learning etc.

       

      Andrew Shortell

      Educator

      CRC Melton

       

       

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      @acsbear8 (twitter)

      VITTA CoM Member

       

       

       

       

      On 23/10/2013, at 8:44 PM, Kent Beveridge <kbeveridge at stbc.vic.edu.au> wrote:





      Maybe I didn't 'teach' with the TRS80, it was on my work desk...not a classroom desk! I was doing production planner/stock controller work! This was the first MIcro-computer I used for a wage!  I did use the cyber at RMIT in the early 1980's with punched cards during a mathematics degree!then later the VAX/VMS and DG MVS systems in the stock broking industry(various clients).

       

      Ps...I used early spreadsheets in my job too....funny how the formulae are still similar to back then!

      I enjoying this yak(thread)!... 

      Sooo Andrew, I reckon perhaps an associate dinosaur membership then as I used these techs professionally...??

      And I did teach others to use them too!....it's called job training!

      Hehehe...
      Kent.


      Kent Beveridge 

      ICT Coordinator & Maths teacher


      On 23 Oct 2013, at 5:21 pm, "Robert Hind" <robert at yinnar.com> wrote:

        :-)

          ----- Original Message ----- 

          From: Russo, Frank R 

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          Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 5:00 PM

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          Bring back the Apple IIe I say...lol

           

          This is becoming like an old Monty python sketch.I remember when I used to get up half an hour before I went to sleep and lick the road clean with wet tongue !!!

          Ay you were lucky.....

           

           

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          From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Robert Hind
          Sent: Wednesday, 23 October 2013 3:00 PM
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          Great to hear you youngsters arguing about being dinosaurs :-)

           

          The first computer I used, in about 1971, was a Fairchild Nova. Cost about $40,000 and came with 2k of, ferrite core, RAM, teletype terminal, paper tape reader and magnetic tape storage.

           

          First computer  I used in teaching was a TRS-80, in 1978. My own first computer was a Dick Smith System-80 which I was able to upgrade to 48k RAM.

           

          So I definitely claim membership of the dinosaur club

           

          Robert Hind
          Retired
          Ex Traralgon and Ashwood

            ----- Original Message ----- 

            From: Andrew Shortell 

            To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List 

            Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 2:27 PM

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            no Kent 

            unless you actually taught with them (like I did)

            you are merely a "memory"saur 

             

            :: greybeard moment #1: I used a Mac where the OS was on a floppy and the wealthy had two floppy drives so the data could be stored without removing the OS disk

            #2 I recall that at my father's work they had hard drives in a room and each was in a box 1 metre high by .9 by .9  and they EACH contained 1 Megabyte of data. Enormous (then)

             

            I still mourn the loss of Oscar the Grouch singing to me when I emptied the trash on my early mac

             

            Andrew

             

            Andrew Shortell

            Educator

            CRC Melton

             

             

            shortell at get2me.net (This List)

            @acsbear8 (twitter)

            VITTA CoM Member

             

             

             

             

            On 23/10/2013, at 1:46 PM, Kent Beveridge <kbeveridge at stbc.vic.edu.au> wrote:

             

            OMG Mark...I remember the 'trash' 80 too! (Tandy)

            Way back in 'pre-teacher' days for me!  (had one on my desk!!!)

             

            Sooo, does that mean I qualify as a dinosaur???

             

            Kent.

             

            Kent Beveridge

            ICT Coordinator & Maths Teacher

            kbeveridge at stbc.vic.edu.au

             


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            The end of paid operating systems? 

            http://www.wired.com/business/2013/10/apple-ends-paid-oses/

             

            (Strokes grey beard)

            I remember the good ol' days when the OS came in ROM. As for EPROM... luxury!!

             

            In next week's Greybeard Moment...

             

            I waggle my finger at young people and explain how my 1978 TRS-80 with 4KB of RAM (yes, kilobytes, not megabytes) only had uppercase characters to save on storage.  A full ASCII set is a senseless extravagance, I tell you!

             

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