[Year 12 SofDev] Ipad in schools

Wed Nov 17 11:23:14 EST 2010

Hi Chris,

Our AP walked in with one of 3 Ipads in our school to show how his daughter's primary school had taken to the Ultranet and the menu does come up in Safari in the Ipad.
Is it detecting the  browser type and sending out the page that is compatible for it ?
Not sure of any other areas that may not work.

Kevork Krozian
Digital Learning Manager
Forest Hill College
www.fhc.vic.edu.au
tel: 0419 356 034

From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Chris Ellis
Sent: Monday, 15 November 2010 7:41 PM
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Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Ipad in schools

A simple solution for ipads using the Ultranet is for the developers to remove that stupid, annoying, badly designed and interfering pop up flash menu at the bottom of the screen. Apparently that is the only component requiring flash, apart from the IDAM backend.

And yes, I also believe flash is a dying, dead-end technology. This article<http://techcrunch.com/2010/11/11/flasher-on-the-loose/> gives some insight into the issues.

Cheers

Chris Ellis

eLearning Coordinator
Ultranet Lead User
Lorne-Aireys Inlet P-12 College
ellis.christopher.l at edumail.vic.gov.au<mailto:ellis.christopher.l at edumail.vic.gov.au>

On 14/11/2010, at 8:03 PM, Kevork Krozian wrote:

Hi Robert,

Here is a post earlier :

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Sent: Thursday, 4 November 2010 6:20 PM
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Android tablets are the way to go. They do Flash so will run Ultranet, ABC View, thousands of websites.

The Android OS is the google one that you were thinking of I expect.

Kind Regards
Kevork

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Sent: Sunday, 14 November 2010 11:31 AM
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Hello Kevork

the IT gurus at our place have had a careful look at the ipad, are impressed, but are annoyed about the shortcomings and have decided to wait for a machine who's name I can't remember (may samsung???) that is going to run google's os - it's apparently every bit as good as the ipad without the flash etc issues and will apparently be released "soon"

Regards
Robert T-A
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Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 10:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Ipad in schools

Hi Folks,

Sorry for cross posting but very topical for our elearning colleagues ...
I have spoken to 3 schools who are doing just this, Ipads at year 7 and when I raise these concerns with Flash and Java not running I get a blank stare.
Is there anyone out there who has considered the issues and found a resolution/workaround or other approach apart from html5 will solve all the problems which may or may not happen and may or may not take 3 to 5 years ....

Kind Regards

Kevork

From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au<mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au> [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Don Morelli (Optus)
Sent: Thursday, 4 November 2010 6:45 PM
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Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Ipad in schools

The decision has been made Allison which is unfortunate for your school as not only does the iPad not support Flash but it also does not support Java. So you can't run java apps like Geogebra in Maths, which is worth its weight in gold. There are many programs that teachers use to help students to understand concepts in particular learning areas that are not about communication, collaboration and research (some of the web 2.0 stuff). These will not run on the iPad. It will be interesting to see how much of the "cloud computing software " will run on it without problems.  Try running Mathletics and I think that you will have a problem with that as well.  I am sure that in the next year or so things will change, but the range of activities that you can carry out on the iPad now, that have educational value is limited.
Good luck in trying to develop a curriculum-at least it is only year 7
Cheers Don

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Sent: Thursday, 4 November 2010 6:00 PM
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Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] Ipad in schools

Hi All

Sorry for not being specific to Software Development.
My school is introducing iPads to our incoming year 7's and throwing out the textbooks in all subjects. As my other method is maths and this is a concern to a few of the other teachers, I was wondering if anyone else's school is doing something similar and wanting to know what you think. Major concern for us is that we use lots of websites that are Flash based and therefore wont work (as far as I've been told) and we now need to redevelop our year 7 curriculum before the start of next year.

Any comments would be welcome.

Allison
Ringwood Secondary College
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