[Year 12 SofDev] Q8 revisted!

Don Morelli (Optus) da_morelli at optusnet.com.au
Sat Nov 21 08:15:07 EST 2009


Paula, only if the glossary also addresses some of the issues that are
raised on these lists by teachers who are confused because of a lack of
'standard definitions'. Teachers and examiners need to have a common
understanding of what terms mean otherwise students suffer on exams and this
is the area that the study design needs to address. It is plainly obvious
from these discussions and previous ones, that teachers do not have a common
understanding of terms. The list that you provide is good, but there are
definitions of peripherals, input and output and end user to mention a few,
that have not changed since the dinosaurs walked the earth and I would
venture to say that everyone does have a common understanding of these
terms.
Thanks for updating the definition of ICT terms and I hope that your new
list addresses the areas of confusion that have been highlighted in these
discussions, otherwise students will continue to suffer come exam time and
through no fault of their teachers.
Cheers
Don
-----Original Message-----
From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au]
On Behalf Of Christophersen, Paula P
Sent: Friday, 20 November 2009 11:05 AM
To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: RE: [Year 12 SofDev] Q8 revisted!

Hi Mark

The consultation draft had a glossary in it, and the study, including an
expanded glossary was approved for reaccreditation on Wednesday of this
week. So good news all round!

Regards
Paula

Paula Christophersen
ICT Curriculum Manager
VCAA
41 St Andrews Place
EAST MELBOURNE 3002
(03) 9651 4378
-----Original Message-----
From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au
[mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Mark Kelly
Sent: Friday, 20 November 2009 10:30 AM
To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Q8 revisted!

And yet VCAA wants to basically get rid of the glossary entirely from 
the study design!

Don Morelli (Optus) wrote:
> This is where a set of definitions that we all "know and teach" would
make
> our lives so much easier. In the various text books the term phased is
> associated with a partly developed I.S. which is put in and this then
> informs further development of the I.S., until all of the system is
> developed (if this ever happens). Whereas the texts, seem to
consistently
> say that a pilot has the whole system developed and this whole system
is
> place into some part of the organisation for testing, before being
placed
> into the whole system. How can you distinguish between them otherwise?
> As such the key to the question is that the entire system is placed
into 3
> stores initially, before being put into the rest of the
organisation-the
> whole IS is developed. The only answer can be D, otherwise we have no
> distinction between these methods of implementation and should only
have 3
> implimentation methods.
> My 2pence worth
> Cheers
> Don
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au
[mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au]
> On Behalf Of Adrian Janson
> Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2009 3:40 PM
> To: 'Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List'
> Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] Q8 revisted!
> 
> Hi Mark and all,
> 
> Chatting with some of my students today - I am not beginning to change
my
> mind...  I originally thought the answer was 'B' phased, however, as
you
> have stated Mark, a phased rollout is usually bringing parts of a
system
> on-line across a whole information system.  This is where I think the
> question gets a bit fuzzy - you see, it's not technically a 'pilot' as
a
> pilot should by definition happen once.  You can't run 10 pilots (in
the
> case that there are 30 stores - which there could be...)  And it's not
> technically 'phased' as the whole system is being implemented (just at
a few
> stores at a time).  If a student were able to explain their reasoning
- I
> think this question would stand on its own, but as it is in the
multi-choice
> section, I hope that the examiners accept either 'B' or 'D'.
> 
> Cheers,
> Adrian
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au
[mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au]
> On Behalf Of Mark Kelly
> Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2009 3:25 PM
> To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
> Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] SD Post mortem
> 
> The post mortem is done.
>
http://www.mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au/vceit/postmortems/2009sd/SD2009exam.htm
> 
> A friendly paper, apart from assuming knowledge beyond the study
design 
> (key fields, relational databases).  And abbreviating gigabyte as Gb.
> 
> Feel free to nitpick.
> 
> Overall, I'd like to see more meaty programming and a bit less white 
> collar stuff that ITA would cover better, like evaluation, DFDs and 
> project management.  (And yes, I _can_ see their relevance to 
> programmmers, but they do tend to be dull).
> 
> Cheers
> Mark
> 


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