[Year 12 SofDev] RE: sofdev Digest, Vol 39, Issue 36
Don Morelli Optus
da_morelli at optusnet.com.au
Mon May 19 10:32:33 EST 2008
I have looked for this tool on the web and have not been able to find it.
Mark, do you have the URL where you downloaded it?
Cheers Don Morelli
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From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au]
On Behalf Of Fatima Nazar
Sent: Monday, 19 May 2008 10:03 AM
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Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] RE: sofdev Digest, Vol 39, Issue 36
Hi Ross
In these days of being tied to the keyboard, no tool is adequate unless it
can be automated at the developer's desktop. Fortunately there is an
excellent NS tool that is even integrated with Word, allowing NS charts to
be treated as objects in a Word document. One simply types in the pseudo
code for the desired NS chart, and out comes a pleasantly constructed chart.
This tool is available from Kast Associates (bobk at legato.com).
(this is what I read in Mark Kelly's notes but havent tried it out yet)
Hope this helps, let me know if you find more on the above,
Regards
Fatima
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From: sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Ogilvie, Ross A
Sent: Sun 5/18/2008 7:17 PM
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Subject: RE: sofdev Digest, Vol 39, Issue 36
Hi Fatima,
Regarding....."Did you know that there is a software now which produces an
NS for any written algorithm! how cool is that!"....I'd like to know what
that is.....will help me maybe with the kids.
Kindest Regards
Ross Ogilvie
LSF ICT Leader
Sunbury College
30 Racecourse Rd, Sunbury 3429
Ph (W) 9744 1066
(H) 54272843
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From: "Ogilvie, Ross A" <ogilvie.ross.a at edumail.vic.gov.au>
Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] RE: sofdev Digest, Vol 39, Issue 29
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Hello Fatima,
I was wondering how you are going with SD and was considering that we are in
a similar boat, it might be valuable for our students .....and us if we
network via email.
Also please feel free to contact me by phone on the following numbers.
Work: ogilvie.ross.a at edumail.vic.gov.au
Home: changer at nex.net.au
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From: "Fatima Nazar" <fnazar at sfx.vic.edu.au>
Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] RE: sofdev Digest, Vol 39, Issue 27
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Hey Ross,
It is so crazy, specially because I am the only one teaching SD at my school
and no one to bounce off ideas with.
We are using Vb.net and Adrian's book is proving to be very useful for
programming - do you find that your boy students (i have only 1 girl in two
classes of boys) either want to play games or do coding, pushing in theory
is like putting them on a waxing table! they cringe so bad at theory. And no
one wants to read. I usually take a quiz every lesson (a short one) so that
they can recall and retain stuff.
I will be starting my SAC2 in wk8, I dont know if I am doing good time or
behind :)
Did you know that there is a software now which produces an NS for any
written algorithm! how cool is that!
Cheers
Fatima
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Thats what I thought Fatima. I'm new to SD as well..........how are you
going?
Getting my head around SAC2 at the moment......have managed to get up to
speed with programming in VB for the software module.....just have to get my
head around testing tables, validation and N/S (Nazi) diagrams...(Don't
mention the war!!!!!!)
Regards
Ross Ogilvie
LSF ICT Leader
Sunbury College
30 Racecourse Rd, Sunbury 3429
Ph (W) 9744 1066
(H) 54272843
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2. RE: VCE IT Study Design Day: Units 2 & 4 (Fatima Nazar)
3. RE: U3O2 SAC (Fatima Nazar)
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Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 14:26:55 +1000
From: "Lisa Chadderton" <lisa.chadderton at gmail.com>
Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] VCE IT Study Design Day: Units 2 & 4
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from experienced teachers who are operating in the classroom? New and
experienced teachers of Year 11 and 12 VCE IT are invited to share in the
*VCE
IT Day: Units 2 & 4* experience and gain the knowledge you need to implement
the ITA, SD and Unit 2 IT study design with your students.
*Date:* Friday 15th February
*Venue:* The University of Melbourne, ICT Building, 111 Barry Street,
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*Time:* 8:30am - 3:15pm
*Sessions:*
1) Overview: Relationship between the curriculum and the assessment (Paula
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*Cost:*
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shortly. Those of you who did not attend the initial day in February are
still welcome to attend the VCE IT Day: Units 2 & 4 as it is not necessary
to attend both and materials are independant.
See you there
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From: "Fatima Nazar" <fnazar at sfx.vic.edu.au>
Subject: RE: [Year 12 SofDev] VCE IT Study Design Day: Units 2 & 4
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Hi Lisa,
I am interested but the date is 15th feb? has this already happened?
Fatima
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Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] VCE IT Study Design Day: Units 2 & 4
Do you need to refresh your VCE IT Units 2 & 4 skills? Do you want to learn
from experienced teachers who are operating in the classroom? New and
experienced teachers of Year 11 and 12 VCE IT are invited to share in the
VCE IT Day: Units 2 & 4 experience and gain the knowledge you need to
implement the ITA, SD and Unit 2 IT study design with your students.
Date: Friday 15th February
Venue: The University of Melbourne, ICT Building, 111 Barry Street, Carlton
(Malways 2B C9)
Time: 8:30am - 3:15pm
Sessions:
1) Overview: Relationship between the curriculum and the assessment (Paula
Christophersen - VCAA)
2) Choose two of the following three sessions:
- Year 11 Unit 2 - IT Pathways Outcomes 1 - 3
- Software Development Unit 4 Outcomes 1 & 2
- ITA Unit 4 Outcomes 1 & 2
Cost:
VITTA Individual Members - $195
VITTA School Members - $230
Non-VITTA Members - $260
Register online at www.vitta.org.au/events or call the VITTA office on 9495
6836 for more information.
Please note. This event is a sequal to the VCE IT Day: Units 1 & 3 held in
February of this year. If you have already registered for both days, there
is no need to re-register. You will be sent a reminder/ confirmation email
shortly. Those of you who did not attend the initial day in February are
still welcome to attend the VCE IT Day: Units 2 & 4 as it is not necessary
to attend both and materials are independant.
See you there
Lisa
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Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 14:44:39 +1000
From: "Fatima Nazar" <fnazar at sfx.vic.edu.au>
Subject: RE: [Year 12 SofDev] U3O2 SAC
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Thanx heaps to Donald and Kevin for sending me the instructions for file
permissions! peace has been restored :)
and we have now logged the valuable information for future use!
cheers
fatima
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Sent: Thu 5/15/2008 11:30 AM
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Hi Fatima,
I think with the full trust you will be successful
regards
kev
Fatima Nazar wrote:
> Hi Kevin,
>
> thanx for this document. We (the tecnician and I ) downloaded
> somethign very similar from the net and tried to give permissions (for
> reading and writing) but the file path was c:\ and none of us teachers
> and students can write on the c: drive. We have S/H/T drives where we
> do all our work.
>
> When Nathan (our technician) uses the programmer logged as a local
> administrator the programs work for him, but as soon as we try it on
> the network drive we get the permissions error.
>
> We didnt do the full trust bit as mentioned in your document and will
> try it tommorrow
>
> Thanx once again
>
> Fatima
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* sofdev-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Kevin Feely
> *Sent:* Wed 14/05/2008 3:54 PM
> *To:* Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
> *Subject:* Re: [Year 12 SofDev] U3O2 SAC
>
> Hi Fatima,
> It can be a network trust problem
> Can you write the text file to c:?
> If so the following mod could help
> This should not affect any other security issues as it only refers to
> the vb net programs
> regards
> Kevin
>
>
> Fatima Nazar wrote:
> > hi guys,
> >
> > I am new to SD and have been caught in the permissions error whenever
> > I or my students try to write in a txt file. We have spent two days
> > and cant seem to find any solution. I have run the same program at
> > home and it runs smoothly, can anyone help me? (We are using Vb.Net
> > 2005, express edition). I did go on the net and printed something that
> > has to be done in my .net framework - but my it technician is worried
> > about a whole bunch of security issues ! if you have come across this
> > error can you please send me some advice?
> >
> > Regards
> > Fatima
> > SFX College Beaconsfield
> >
> >
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