[offtopic] Using School Supplied laptos at home

Tue May 27 21:18:12 EST 2008

Can you please post the list of must-haves your contract says? I have 
never seen any mandated sofware list on any communication. You sure your 
not just thinking of the pop-up Acceptable Use Policy?
All the DEECD policy's simply state that you must not install 
un-licensed software etc, etc.
I am curious as I wish I had a dollar for every time I have had to 
re-format my laptop. I was running exclusively Ubuntu for quite a while 
- all perfectly within the bounds of my contact. Open Source is like 
that.  ;)
Cameron

McDonald, Debra A1 wrote:
> Hey Ross, I must agree with most of what you said here but I would say 
> if you are reformatting your laptop when you get it you may have to 
> read your contract again for yes you are allowed to load what ever you 
> want as long as you or the school has the licence and you are ok to 
> use it... but in my copy of the contract it states that there is 
> certain programs that must be loaded onto your laptop and the diet 
> employed technicians have this list... if they are not on your laptop 
> then you are breaking your contract... there are different versions of 
> this contract and yours may something different but I would not want 
> for someone on this list to get fined or in trouble with DIET.  well 
> take this into your thought process when you think about reformatting 
> your machine.
>  
> regards
> Debra M^c Donald
> Network Manager
> Lyndhurst Secondary College
> Cranbourne
> (03) 5996 0144
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> *Subject:* RE: [offtopic] Using School Supplied laptos at home
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> DEECD provide (almost) all govt school teachers with a notebook
> (although we have a small "payment" deducted from our salary each
> fortnight - mine is $8).
> There have never been any restrictions on the use of these notebooks at
> home or anywhere else. I can use mine at conferences, in cafes and at
> home to connect wirelessly to the internet. We also have total control
> over what we install, and usually the first thing I do is reformat mine
> to get rid of all the DEECD junk installed on it, and set it up the way
> I want it.
>
> I think education (of the teachers) here is an issue, perhaps if they
> knew that their browsing history could be viewed by others who use their
> computer maybe they would be more careful. Obviously there are still
> people who don't realize that everything that is done in a browser stays
> there until it is deleted. A brief demonstration at a staff meeting of
> what can be revealed about staff surfing habits in the history of IE or
> firefox would scare most into doing the right thing! Of course you would
> have to set up a computer so that the results were "shocking" (but not
> too "adult" for a staff meeting!)
>
> Maybe some simple software which deletes browsing history, cookies,
> searches etc such as Advanced Windows Care or CC Cleaner should be
> installed? Staff should be shown how to use it, and told to use it after
> each browsing session outside of the school. Even showing them how to
> use the IE or Firefox "delete browsing history" or "clear private data"
> would help.
>
> Personally I don't see why staff cannot install software - surely staff
> should be able to trial some of the amazing open source software or
> other free software which is available which may help their teaching and
> learning (eg FreeMind, OpenProj, Scratch etc)
>
> Hope this helps
> Cheers
> Ros
>
> Roslyn Meadows
> Head of ICT Implementation
> Head of Assessment and Reporting
> Bentleigh Secondary College
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> [mailto:offtopic-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of WEIR Andrew
> Sent: Tuesday, 27 May 2008 1:01 PM
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> Alan,
> Other then anti virus tools we have no other tools on the local
> machine's.
> There are some security policies set so that staff can't install
> programs.
> However it not the viruses that are the issue, it's the content, staff
> downloading pictures (of an adult nature) and just generally
> inappropriate content for a Work based machine.
> Andrew
>
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> [mailto:offtopic-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Alan Oh
> Sent: Tuesday, 27 May 2008 12:48 PM
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> What are the main concerns with home connection? Would the security
> software already installed on the laptop be able to handle "nasties"
> from the internet?
>
>
> Regards
>
> Alan Oh
> Waverley Christian College
> Tel: (613) 9871-8600 ext 605
> www: www.wcc.vic.edu.au
> email: oh.a at wcc.vic.edu.au
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> Subject: [offtopic] Using School Supplied laptos at home
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> Dear all,
> I am after some recommendations or opinions on solving a few issues.
> Currently the school provides all its staff with laptop computers for
> use at school and limited use at home.
> However staff are not meant to connect to there home ISP's or browse the
> internet at home.
>
> We are currently trying to solve the issues so that staff can use them
> at home, but we need to be able to monitor/log what staff are
> downloading onto these computers.
>
> Does anyone know of or have an ideas for how this could be done.
>
> So far my thoughts run to installing some sort of "Net Nanny" style
> program, and using the Sina Black list.
>
> This is the first of three issues that we are facing preventing staff
> using the computers at home. However this is kind of the most important
> one.
>
> Regards
>
> Andrew
>
>
>
>
>
> Andrew Weir
>
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