[Year 12 IT Apps] VITTA Practice Exams Indiscrepancies

POLLOCK, Benn(POL) POL at wantirnacollege.vic.edu.au
Thu Oct 18 15:20:40 EST 2012


Thank You Mark and David for prompt replies.

The first place I looked was the SD and did notice that only text
(string), number, date/time, Boolean (true/false) where listed. Was just
after some clarification as it's confusing as when the kids look on Page
100; they see Currency as a Data Type. I know there was an amendment to
the SD which removed currency as a Data Type, but as they can choose
currency as a 'Data Type' in Access, you would hope that the examiners
would accept either number or currency as the correct answer. 

As with the naming conventions, as a first year teacher of IT-Apps, how
can the students be tested on names of conventions that aren't
specifically listed in the SD or the Textbook? I'm quite puzzled at this
being new to the profession and the subject. I taught my students the
same way the textbook does, prefixing the tables/queries/reports etc
with lower case 'tbl' then the name such as 'CustomerID'. I was not sure
of the actually name of this convention, but now I know.. Thanks! :)


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Today's Topics:

   1. VITTA Practice Exams Indiscrepancies (POLLOCK, Benn(POL))
   2. Re: VITTA Practice Exams Indiscrepancies (Mark KELLY)
   3. Re: VITTA Practice Exams Indiscrepancies (Howard, David)
   4. Photoshop PD Opportunities (Cameron Ross)


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Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 11:53:06 +1100
From: "POLLOCK, Benn(POL)" <POL at wantirnacollege.vic.edu.au>
Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] VITTA Practice Exams Indiscrepancies
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Hello All,

A few queries regarding the practice exams from the VITTA. My students
and I have had quite some debate over quite a few of the answers
provided to the exams in the 2012 Exam Pack.

In a response to one of the questions, it asks for the student to fill
in the table with the correct data type. The field name is
"ProductCost($)". All my students put "Currency" as the appropriate data
type, however the VITTA answers sheet lists the correct answer as
"Number", however I believe that Currency is listed as a Data Type in
the text. 

Also, another sub question to this was to identify the naming convention
used. The correct answer provided was CamelCase or CamelBack. I can't
seem to find these naming conventions anywhere within the text, or
remember covering them with my students throughout the year. There is
also a multiple choice question in the same practice exam which ask
students to choose the correct naming convention used - the responses
include, Camel Case, Camel Back, Hungarian Notation and Positional
Notation. Once again, can't see to find any reference to any of these in
the texts. Have I missed something? If it's not in the text, how can
students expect to answer these questions? These are just some of the
recent discrepancies I've had with these VITTA practice exams. 

Cheers,
Benn 



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Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 13:13:43 +1100
From: Mark KELLY <kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au>
Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] VITTA Practice Exams Indiscrepancies
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Hi Benn. Remember that no textbook is the ultimate authority: the study
design is. And it defines the mandated data types as follows:

ITA = text (string), number, date, currency, logic (Boolean) Units 1+2 =
string, character, integer, floating point SD = string, character,
integer, floating point, Boolean

So 'number' would be correct for ITA, even if your kids knew other more
suitable types like currency or single precision. I bet real VCAA
markers would have accepted those alternatives since they're very common
in many languages. The VITTA solution may just have chosen to be
conservative and sticking to what the types that the study design lists.

(Dog only knows why they're different for each study... it reminds me of
the multiple problem solving models we had before the SDLC was given the
toss.)

CamelCase and Hungarian Notation are the two main naming conventions.
They may not be listed in the study design, but they are commonly
accepted in the industry, and the study design often does not list
examples or mandated types of things.
As always, we have to be careful using any non-VCAA document - even
VITTA's
- because (as far as I know) no commercial text, assessment task etc is
officially given a VCAA seal of approval.  The closest we get is
outcomes that pass auditing.

But then again, vetting texts and tasks might be an excellent service
that VCAA could offer authors to ensure VCE materials are top-notch...

Mark

On 18 October 2012 11:53, POLLOCK, Benn(POL)
<POL at wantirnacollege.vic.edu.au
> wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> A few queries regarding the practice exams from the VITTA. My students

> and I have had quite some debate over quite a few of the answers 
> provided to the exams in the 2012 Exam Pack.
>
> In a response to one of the questions, it asks for the student to fill

> in the table with the correct data type. The field name is 
> "ProductCost($)". All my students put "Currency" as the appropriate 
> data type, however the VITTA answers sheet lists the correct answer as

> "Number", however I believe that Currency is listed as a Data Type in 
> the text.
>
> Also, another sub question to this was to identify the naming 
> convention used. The correct answer provided was CamelCase or 
> CamelBack. I can't seem to find these naming conventions anywhere 
> within the text, or remember covering them with my students throughout

> the year. There is also a multiple choice question in the same 
> practice exam which ask students to choose the correct naming 
> convention used - the responses include, Camel Case, Camel Back, 
> Hungarian Notation and Positional Notation. Once again, can't see to 
> find any reference to any of these in the texts. Have I missed 
> something? If it's not in the text, how can students expect to answer 
> these questions? These are just some of the recent discrepancies I've
had with these VITTA practice exams.
>
> Cheers,
> Benn
>
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>
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Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 13:52:00 +1100
From: "Howard, David" <dhoward at stmichaels.vic.edu.au>
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Hi Benn,

The study design states for Unit 3 ITA that the data types are:

data types---> including text (string), number, date/time, Boolean
(true/false)

I would go by the study design, not the text.

What naming conventions did you teach your students if I may ask?

Regards

David


David Howard
Head of IT & Learning Technologies
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Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] VITTA Practice Exams Indiscrepancies

Hello All,

A few queries regarding the practice exams from the VITTA. My students
and I have had quite some debate over quite a few of the answers
provided to the exams in the 2012 Exam Pack.

In a response to one of the questions, it asks for the student to fill
in the table with the correct data type. The field name is
"ProductCost($)". All my students put "Currency" as the appropriate data
type, however the VITTA answers sheet lists the correct answer as
"Number", however I believe that Currency is listed as a Data Type in
the text. 

Also, another sub question to this was to identify the naming convention
used. The correct answer provided was CamelCase or CamelBack. I can't
seem to find these naming conventions anywhere within the text, or
remember covering them with my students throughout the year. There is
also a multiple choice question in the same practice exam which ask
students to choose the correct naming convention used - the responses
include, Camel Case, Camel Back, Hungarian Notation and Positional
Notation. Once again, can't see to find any reference to any of these in
the texts. Have I missed something? If it's not in the text, how can
students expect to answer these questions? These are just some of the
recent discrepancies I've had with these VITTA practice exams. 

Cheers,
Benn 

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Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 14:27:02 +1100
From: Cameron Ross <C.Ross at balcombegrammar.vic.edu.au>
Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] Photoshop PD Opportunities
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Hi everyone,

Sorry for the cross posts

I have just been advised that I am teaching an IT subject based around
Photography next year.  If possible does anyone know if there are any
Photoshop PD's currently running with either VITTA or ATOM?


Regards,

Cameron Ross
VCE IT / Maths Teacher
[cid:image001.jpg at 01CDAD3C.A2191C10]
389 Nepean Highway, Mt Martha 3934
Tel: 03 5970 1100 Fax: 03 5974 2755
Email: c.ross at balcombegrammar.vic.edu.au
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