[Year 12 IT Apps] 2012 VCAA Exam Chat
Jackson Bates
bates.j at wcc.vic.edu.au
Tue Nov 13 15:06:44 EST 2012
Thanks Andrew,
I figured MC Q6 wouldn't be C because creating evaluation criteria happens in the Design stage, not development...but who knows what VCAA intended, eh? I agree with Heath that the wording is pretty poor if the answer is A...
I think you might be right about MC Q12. I had trouble parsing the way they laid the validation rule out, but your suggestion makes sense to me. I'd prefer "Postcode must be greater than or equal to 3000, and less than 4000" or "Postcode must be between 3000 and 3999"
MC Q16 The study design states: "Determining the scope of the solution. What can the solution do? What can't the solution do? What are the benefits of the solution to the user? The scope states the boundaries or parameters of the solution. Benefits can be stated in terms of their efficiency and effectiveness." [page 17] The study uses can and can't, rightly or wrongly, so I would expect VCAA to credit B as the answer.
My kids were actually disappointed not to have tactical vs strategic decision making style questions. They always get them wrong so have been studying the difference very thoroughly :)
Jackson Bates
Waverley Christian College
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Thanks, Heath.
My only discrepancy was Q6 - I suggested A, which while worded to make it seem haphazard, implies testing. I figured the other three would all be part of evaluation.
Section B Question 9 was a bit of a worry...Did they want the kids to draw a 2NF set of tables and then a 3NF set of tables? I just jumped straight to 3NF and described what it would look like at each step. (Didn't use the second page at all...)
Also, Section B Q6...did everyone interpret that as "Facebook. Discuss."?
General impression...apart from interpreting what the examiners actually wanted, it seemed like an easy paper.
Jackson Bates
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Finney House Coordinator
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Heya All,
I'll volunteer to make the first mistakes. Quick glance at multi-choice:
1. B (easy starter nice)
2. C
3. D
4. C
5. C
6. B
7. C
8. D
9. B
10. D
11. B
12. B
13. B
14. D
15. A
16. B
17. A
18. C
19. D
20. A
A big thanks to Andrew Pate from my two (out of five) students who showed up to class this morning where we concentrated on "the big question". I thought VCAA might have made it a little more structured after last year's low response.
At least in this examiners report we will have a definite VCAA version of the normal forms. Hopefully it won't have any surprises.
Cheers,
Heath Matheson
Mount Beauty Secondary College
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MC 6 C (eval criteria -- as a developer you are going to make sure it meets eval criteria before delivery so that it does not come back and you get paid for it) mc 12 D (test actual boundaries to include what must be in)
mc 16 A (B says can and cannot *-->it needs to say* should and should not
so B is looking into the past and A is looking to the future)
am looking forward to examiner's report already and the dogs breakfast judgement from our pre-eminent list members
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On 13 November 2012 14:25, Jackson Bates <bates.j at wcc.vic.edu.au> wrote:
> Thanks, Heath.
>
> My only discrepancy was Q6 - I suggested A, which while worded to make
> it seem haphazard, implies testing. I figured the other three would
> all be part of evaluation.
>
> Section B Question 9 was a bit of a worry...Did they want the kids to
> draw a 2NF set of tables and then a 3NF set of tables? I just jumped
> straight to 3NF and described what it would look like at each step.
> (Didn't use the second page at all...)
>
> Also, Section B Q6...did everyone interpret that as "Facebook. Discuss."?
>
> General impression...apart from interpreting what the examiners
> actually wanted, it seemed like an easy paper.
>
> Jackson Bates
> VCE English and IT Applications Teacher Learning Technologies
> Coordinator Finney House Coordinator
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>
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> Heya All,
>
> I'll volunteer to make the first mistakes. Quick glance at multi-choice:
>
> 1. B (easy starter nice)
>
> 2. C
>
> 3. D
>
> 4. C
>
> 5. C
>
> 6. B
>
> 7. C
>
> 8. D
>
> 9. B
>
> 10. D
>
> 11. B
>
> 12. B
>
> 13. B
>
> 14. D
>
> 15. A
>
> 16. B
>
> 17. A
>
> 18. C
>
> 19. D
>
> 20. A
>
> A big thanks to Andrew Pate from my two (out of five) students who
> showed up to class this morning where we concentrated on "the big
> question". I thought VCAA might have made it a little more structured
> after last year's low response.
>
> At least in this examiners report we will have a definite VCAA version
> of the normal forms. Hopefully it won't have any surprises.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Heath Matheson
> Mount Beauty Secondary College
>
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Regarding Q6 - I think with the info "to ensure the new solution does what it is intended to do" 'A' may very well be the best answer, however 'enter a lot of data' seems like a rather dodgy description of appropriate test data.
I presumed documentation should be part of the solution and should also be tested.
My guys drew a 1NF, 2NF and 3NF table for Q9. They complained this was a very boring question to complete.
No company management or decision questions at all???
Heath
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Thanks, Heath.
My only discrepancy was Q6 - I suggested A, which while worded to make it seem haphazard, implies testing. I figured the other three would all be part of evaluation.
Section B Question 9 was a bit of a worry...Did they want the kids to draw a 2NF set of tables and then a 3NF set of tables? I just jumped straight to 3NF and described what it would look like at each step. (Didn't use the second page at all...)
Also, Section B Q6...did everyone interpret that as "Facebook. Discuss."?
General impression...apart from interpreting what the examiners actually wanted, it seemed like an easy paper.
Jackson Bates
VCE English and IT Applications Teacher
Learning Technologies Coordinator
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Heya All,
I'll volunteer to make the first mistakes. Quick glance at multi-choice:
1. B (easy starter nice)
2. C
3. D
4. C
5. C
6. B
7. C
8. D
9. B
10. D
11. B
12. B
13. B
14. D
15. A
16. B
17. A
18. C
19. D
20. A
A big thanks to Andrew Pate from my two (out of five) students who showed up to class this morning where we concentrated on "the big question". I thought VCAA might have made it a little more structured after last year's low response.
At least in this examiners report we will have a definite VCAA version of the normal forms. Hopefully it won't have any surprises.
Cheers,
Heath Matheson
Mount Beauty Secondary College
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