[Year 12 IT Apps] No ITA at McKinnon in 2012

Jackson Bates bates.j at wcc.vic.edu.au
Thu Oct 20 13:39:49 EST 2011


Our Unit 3 & 4 ITA class at WCC keeps growing year on year. 5 kids last year, 12 this year and it's looking like 22+  next year - Pretty strange given the downward trend others are having. No girls two years running, though, which is a shame (and it makes the IT lab smell funny).

Jackson Bates
Waverley Christian College
Coordinator of Learning Technologies
VCE English | VCE IT Applications

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: No ITA at McKinnon in 2012 (Brendyn Hancock)
   2. Re: No ITA at McKinnon in 2012 (Litsa Tzelepis)
   3. Re: No ITA at McKinnon in 2012 (Mann, Warrick D)


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Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 23:51:17 +0000
From: Brendyn Hancock <BHancock at nagle.vic.edu.au>
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All

But those kids that have not done ICT y7-10 would have still learned all the skills necessary from their English/maths/LOTE/etc teachers. :) or that's what I keep being told!!!!

Cheers

B

From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Mark KELLY
Sent: Thursday, 20 October 2011 10:34 AM
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Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] No ITA at McKinnon in 2012

Since there's no prerequisite for ITA or SD, we regularly got kids enrolling even if they didn't do IT since year 7... and that is a challenge to get them up to speed!
On 20 October 2011 10:05, Paul Golub <golupau at santamaria.vic.edu.au<mailto:golupau at santamaria.vic.edu.au>> wrote:
Hi Mark,

we've never run SD here always ITA.
Next year there is NO ITA as we didn't run Units 1 and 2 this year.
First time ever, that I can remember, there will be no Year 12 IT of any kind.

We will be running Units 1 and 2 next year. Roughly 16 students.

Regards
Paul Golub
Santa Maria College
50 Separation Street
Northcote 3070
Ph: 9488 1674



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From: Mark KELLY kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au<mailto:kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au>
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 08:30:10 +1100
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Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] No ITA at McKinnon in 2012

Hi all.

As I feared, ITA didn't get enough enrolments to run in 2012 - for the first time in about 15 years.

Strangely enough, Software Development *is* running - and before this year it hasn't run for 3 years.

Actually, I'm kind of relieved since SD is more interesting anyway, and ITA seems old, dry and tired. Perhaps it's just because I've been teaching it since forever, or it may be that the new study design is partly to blame - and yes! normal forms, I AM looking at you.  And I'd also put some blame on the freakishly large and long U4O1 - my kids were exhausted at the end of that.

After a hiatus this year, Units 1&2 return to McKinnon in 2012, and since I have barely looked at them it will be another fun year compiling resources for those units.
If the ITA embargo continues and SD continues to run, I may craft units 1&2 to be heavy on programming to better funnel kids into SD in the following year.

Do you guys know what units will run at your places next year?

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Mark Kelly
Manager of ICT, Reporting, IT Learning Area McKinnon Secondary College McKinnon Rd McKinnon 3204, Victoria, Australia Direct line / Voicemail: +613 8520 9085<tel:%2B613%208520%209085>, Fax +613 9578 9253<tel:%2B613%209578%209253> kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au<mailto:kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au>
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From: "Litsa Tzelepis" <htzelepis at msj.vic.edu.au>
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Hello - so sad - I have been teaching this subject for 16 years and I do love it but it looks like its whisping away.

We have about 9 ITA students and about 8 11IT students. Numbers are being finalised this week.

However, our numbers have really spread out across other subjects too. Others are feeling a low in numbers. My concern is where have the numbers gone?

Good luck with the SD course.

Litsa
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  Hi all.

  As I feared, ITA didn't get enough enrolments to run in 2012 - for the first time in about 15 years.

  Strangely enough, Software Development *is* running - and before this year it hasn't run for 3 years.

  Actually, I'm kind of relieved since SD is more interesting anyway, and ITA seems old, dry and tired. Perhaps it's just because I've been teaching it since forever, or it may be that the new study design is partly to blame - and yes! normal forms, I AM looking at you.  And I'd also put some blame on the freakishly large and long U4O1 - my kids were exhausted at the end of that.

  After a hiatus this year, Units 1&2 return to McKinnon in 2012, and since I have barely looked at them it will be another fun year compiling resources for those units.
  If the ITA embargo continues and SD continues to run, I may craft units 1&2 to be heavy on programming to better funnel kids into SD in the following year.

  Do you guys know what units will run at your places next year?

  --
  Mark Kelly
  Manager of ICT, Reporting, IT Learning Area
  McKinnon Secondary College
  McKinnon Rd McKinnon 3204, Victoria, Australia
  Direct line / Voicemail: +613 8520 9085, Fax +613 9578 9253
  kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au
  VCE IT Lecture Notes: http://vceit.com
  Moderator: IT Applications Edulist

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Hi Brendyn,

They wouldn't do a combined 1-2/3-4 ?

I did that this year, I had to re-arrange some outcomes, but they link quite well together.

Cheers
Warrick

From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Brendyn Hancock
Sent: Thursday, 20 October 2011 10:49 AM
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Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] No ITA at McKinnon in 2012

All

Just had news that Unit 1 -2 will run although numbers are very low 12 students. Unit 3-4 had a glimmer of hope but that has faded. So Nagle College 2012 will be unit 1-2 but NO unit3-4.

Cheers

Brendyn
Nagle College
Bairnsdale

From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au<mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au> [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au]<mailto:[mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au]> On Behalf Of Mark KELLY
Sent: Thursday, 20 October 2011 9:30 AM
To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List; Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] No ITA at McKinnon in 2012

Hi all.

As I feared, ITA didn't get enough enrolments to run in 2012 - for the first time in about 15 years.

Strangely enough, Software Development *is* running - and before this year it hasn't run for 3 years.

Actually, I'm kind of relieved since SD is more interesting anyway, and ITA seems old, dry and tired. Perhaps it's just because I've been teaching it since forever, or it may be that the new study design is partly to blame - and yes! normal forms, I AM looking at you.  And I'd also put some blame on the freakishly large and long U4O1 - my kids were exhausted at the end of that.

After a hiatus this year, Units 1&2 return to McKinnon in 2012, and since I have barely looked at them it will be another fun year compiling resources for those units.
If the ITA embargo continues and SD continues to run, I may craft units 1&2 to be heavy on programming to better funnel kids into SD in the following year.

Do you guys know what units will run at your places next year?

--
Mark Kelly
Manager of ICT, Reporting, IT Learning Area McKinnon Secondary College McKinnon Rd McKinnon 3204, Victoria, Australia Direct line / Voicemail: +613 8520 9085, Fax +613 9578 9253 kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au<mailto:kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au>
VCE IT Lecture Notes: http://vceit.com
Moderator: IT Applications Edulist<http://www.edulists.com.au/>

Want a good time? Call 0112358. Ask for Mr Fibonacci.


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