[Year 12 IT Apps] Puts down the rifle...

Howard, David dhoward at stmichaels.vic.edu.au
Tue Nov 15 12:22:11 EST 2011


You mean the computer?

From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Mark KELLY
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But after the disaster someone needs to grab the backups and take them to the backup processing location...  which is option <D>.

I hope the markers are told to accept either C or D.
On 15 November 2011 09:59, ATKINSON-BUCK, Damien <Damien.ATKINSON-BUCK at ivanhoe.com.au<mailto:Damien.ATKINSON-BUCK at ivanhoe.com.au>> wrote:
Is D more geared towards the disaster plan than the recovery plan. They're both important, but C is the only one that is specifically about the recovery AFTER the incident

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Q20 has me thinking. I think both <C> and <D> are important during recovery. I've gone for <C> but can anyone explain why <D> would not be also important?<http://myivanhoe.net/>
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David, I agree with most of your answers for the MC questions, except no.9 I think the answer should be 9B as tactical decisions are more short term and specific.<http://myivanhoe.net/>
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I'm with Mark on this one. Definitely A.<http://myivanhoe.net/>
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Validation can ensure that I input a date of birth for example that is reasonable, say 12/08/1981 but is it accurate, no!<http://myivanhoe.net/>
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From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Mark Scott
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Validation deals with data entry.<http://myivanhoe.net/>
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Options B, C and D are all testing to ensure data manipulation is correct/accurate etc.<http://myivanhoe.net/>
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Only option A clearly deals with data entry (i.e. the most correct option)<http://myivanhoe.net/>
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Can someone help me with MC question 8?<http://myivanhoe.net/>
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An effective validation technique is evident when ... all answers seem to support the presence of an effective validation technique.<http://myivanhoe.net/>
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A - at first glance the answer but is reasonableness the best evidence of validation?<http://myivanhoe.net/>
B- an accurate report suggests accurate input data, doesn't it?<http://myivanhoe.net/>
C- least likely but again "reasonably"? What does that mean? If data can be sorted is it valid?<http://myivanhoe.net/>
D -calculated files gives correct answers! Is this evidence of GIGO - not garbage in, garbage out, but good in, good out?<http://myivanhoe.net/>
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From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Ben Hines
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Yeah I just found that, thanks<http://myivanhoe.net/>
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A - Scope see page 17 of the study design.<http://myivanhoe.net/>
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I cannot believe that number question. No one would normally type numbers in as numerals, set the data type to text and then order from A -> Z.<http://myivanhoe.net/>
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I doubt anyone would get the answer to that unless they have accidentally done it in the past. <http://myivanhoe.net/>
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Because you have entered them as text, the sort will only look at the left most number to order them (just like with normal ones).<http://myivanhoe.net/>
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Answer according to Access is B....<http://myivanhoe.net/>
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Question 5 in the Multiple Choice? What's the consensus on that one?<http://myivanhoe.net/>
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I don't have the paper in front of me, but after a quick chat to my students, plain to see that they had differing opinions on the sorting of numbers as text question in the multiple choice.<http://myivanhoe.net/>
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I'm not marking this year by the way.<http://myivanhoe.net/>
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From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Mark KELLY
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I'm reading the paper now.

Section A looks pretty free of rabies.

I have put the gun down after reading the normalisation question...  Thank Dog sanity prevailed on that one!

Damn that ERD question - three marks and they had to draw an entire diagram from scratch!  Grrr.

The 8 mark question appeared, as we expected.  And it was approachable.

Overall, I think I might give the dog a bone.


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