[Year 12 IT Apps] McKinnon classes 2011

Mann, Warrick D Mann.Warrick.D at edumail.vic.gov.au
Mon Sep 13 10:11:48 EST 2010


Perhaps they need to take the course!

 

From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au
[mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Zach Alexakos
Sent: Monday, 13 September 2010 10:07 AM
To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] McKinnon classes 2011

 

Dare I say it but maybe the 'reviewer' or the 'system' cannot
distinguish between 'factors within our control and factors outside our
control'??-

Zach Alexakos





On 11/09/10 10:56 AM, "Roland Gesthuizen" <rgesthuizen at gmail.com> wrote:

Three years ago, my VCE IT classes got shouldered with the Arts block so
the my students are generally drawn from Maths-Science to Business
Studies-Arts. Most have an ESL background and my most 'accademic' IT
student has only been in Australia for a couple of years and struggles
with many basic computing ideas. I am still smouldering by the reviewer
who openly ticked me off for a decline in IT results. Explaining to a
bean-counter about small sample sizes, teaching for all and shifting
cohort groups doesnt cut much cloth when they wave their moderation
wand.

Oddly enough, I have more girls in my year 12 class than boys. I put
this to the splendid Go-Girls-Gor-For IT seminar we ran for the year 10s
a couple of years ago. My guess is that if I hadn't done this, we would
also be down to just one class. The pictures speak for themselves and I
believe they are running the event again.
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/plakboek/sets/72157624373556087/

Lock and load .. 

Regards Roland

PS: My biggest challenge is enthusing kids to return to school / class
following the term break for revision and sticking it out. For the past
couple of years, I sit outside the examination room to fire off a
threatening glare for anybody that even just dates to think about
leaving early (sigh) .. some later admit that the thought of a grumpy Mr
G lurking outside keeps them indoors.

PSS: Increasingly like the idea of switching to offering SD instead next
year.

On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Brendyn Hancock
<BHancock at nagle.vic.edu.au> wrote:

M
 
Many of our kids are taking classes with fancy names and little content.
Many of them are going for classes that require less of them. Many of
the VCE kids are going to VCAL/VET.
Lots are going to more social based content classes. Environmental
Studies. Social Justice studies. Art.
 
My observation.

 
B
 
Brendyn Hancock
ICT Manager
Nagle College
PO Box 507
BAIRNSDALE VIC 3875
p 03 5152 6122 ext954
f 03 5152 6220
 
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From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au
[mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Mark KELLY
Sent: Friday, 10 September 2010 9:59 AM

To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] McKinnon classes 2011

 
Do you know where they're going instead?

On 10 September 2010 09:46, Brendyn Hancock <BHancock at nagle.vic.edu.au>
wrote:

Mark
 
Was just about to post this same discussion. We seem to be all
re-visiting this.
 
Nagle has an enrolment of 950. 2011 classes have just been drafted. Unit
1-2=8 students, Unit 3-4=1 student
 
Interesting to note we can only raise 2 classes of 25 student for a term
elective of gamemaker in Y10 as well.
 
Trends are trending away from us..
 
Cheers
 
B
 
Brendyn Hancock
ICT Manager
Nagle College
PO Box 507
BAIRNSDALE VIC 3875
p 03 5152 6122 ext954
f 03 5152 6220
 
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From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au
[mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Mark KELLY
Sent: Friday, 10 September 2010 9:01 AM
To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List; Year 12 Software
Development Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] McKinnon classes 2011

 
It's really odd!  

ITA, which has run continuously forever with good numbers has barely
scraped a class together for next year by combining year elevens and
twelves into one small ITA class.

SD, which has only run every 3 or so years (with a small cohort when it
did run), is nearly over-subscribed.

There don't seem to be any clear local causes for such a great change of
attitude (e.g. changes of teachers or big changes in middle-years IT
offerings) so I can only put it down to either something in the water,
or the changes to the study design.

To be fair, I haven't heard kids explicitly blaming the ITA study
design, and for some reason they seem dead keen on programming in our
year 10 Info Systems elective. My year 11 IT classes have been dead
quiet for 2 weeks with the kids busily coding in VB6.  Last year I had
to beat them with chairs to finish the VB material... this year I can
sit up the front folding paper aeroplanes and clipping my toenails while
they beaver away and sort out problems within their own ranks.

Odd!

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