[Year 12 IT Apps] Qats ITA
Kerryn Quirk
qui at rushworthp-12.vic.edu.au
Fri Sep 5 14:29:50 EST 2008
I've used the SACs and have seen the author at last year's VITTA conference.
Not sure about being an Adonis but the SACs are great!
On 9/5/08 2:18 PM, "Mark Kelly" <kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au> wrote:
> While I can't speak about the tasks, I've heard the author is a
> broad-shouldered, square-jawed, flaxen-haired Adonis before whom women
> swoon and men cower in envy; a veritable saint, and truly wonderful,
> wonderful person.
>
> Schultz, Gary I wrote:
>> Quality assessment tasks for ITA units 3 & 4
>> l have not seem them mentioned on this site, are they very useful? I
>> have only been a member of this site for the last couple of months,
>> please excuse my ignorance.
>>
>> Gary Schultz
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au
>> [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Denny, Chris Z
>> Sent: Friday, 5 September 2008 10:51 AM
>> To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
>> Subject: RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] From the Administrator -- OT: Rudd Money
>> andOffTopic discussion
>>
>> I agree with a number of other subscribers that this list is often an
>> invaluable resources for all areas of ICT not just IT applications. I
>> have been teaching for over 20 years and have been teaching IPM/IT Apps
>> since 1992 except for a year when I worked as a systems admin. I very
>> much appreciate the work that both Kevork and Mark do on the list. I too
>> have strayed off the topic at times, but have always found other
>> teachers very generous with their advice and very tolerant of my
>> divergent rantings. I know what it was like to try and teach a course
>> like this without the list, and life was much more difficult then.
>>
>> I would appreciate the continued tolerance of off topic subjects at
>> times because there are normally a number of people with the same
>> question and it is probably the easiest and most effective forum for
>> discussion of these subjects.
>>
>> So keep up your brilliant work Kevork and Mark, there is one old chalky
>> here who very much appreciates this resource.
>>
>> Chris Denny
>> ICT Co-ordinator
>> Trafalgar High School
>> Phone (03) 56331733
>> Fax (03) 56332378
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au
>> [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Kevork Krozian
>> Sent: Friday, 5 September 2008 8:37 AM
>> To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
>> Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] From the Administrator -- OT: Rudd Money and
>> OffTopic discussion
>>
>> Dear Colleagues,
>>
>>
>> Fortunately or otherwise since its inception and earlier incarnation as
>> "ipm", the "itapps" list has become the "go to" list for anything and
>> everything any IT teacher experiences in education.
>>
>> I have always intended Edulists to serve teachers rather than the
>> other
>> way around. However, there are responsibilities that come with using a
>> mailing list specifically related to a subject - in this case IT
>> applications Units 3 and 4.
>>
>> It is nice to share details of a good day or a bad day or an
>> indifferent
>> day as I hope we consider each other colleagues working closely.
>> Sometimes
>> this does stray into off topic material and can dilute the mailing list
>> and
>> annoy or irritate teachers of IT Apps. Not all of these people are IT
>> coordinators, or timetablers or reporting coordinators or laptop School
>> Nominated Representatives(SNR) , or in government schools for that
>> matter...
>> As a sad personal note, our last IT apps class was in 2004 and for
>> the
>> first time since the VCE, there is to be no Software Development in
>> 2009.
>> So, I should not need to remain on the IT Apps list but choose to do so
>> as there
>> is much discussion outside of IT Apps I don't want to miss due to the
>> way the list has been used.
>>
>> For the lists to survive we all need to :
>> 1. allow some slack for genuine mistakes
>> 2. redirect posts to the right list through gentle reminders if
>> they
>> are genuinely off topic
>> 3. encourage everyone to post without fear of having their heads
>> bitten off
>> 4. support the moderator ( Mark Kelly ) who does a brilliant job
>> 5. get the admin ( Kevork Krozian ) to periodically post info
>> about
>> other lists so people can be made aware of them and encouraged to join.
>> 6. agree we can never please everybody all the time and no system
>> is
>> perfect
>> 7. remind each other of netiquette guidelines found at
>> www.edulists.com.au , netiquette link.
>> 8 . take care we don't get a high "chaff to wheat" ratio by
>> hijacking
>> the itapps list for all IT and other issues.
>> 9. any other suggestions ......
>>
>>
>> Any objections or comments regarding this ?
>>
>> Kind Regards
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Kevork Krozian
>> IT Manager , Forest Hill College
>> k.krozian at fhc.vic.edu.au
>> http://www.fhc.vic.edu.au
>> Mobile: 0419 356 034
>>
>>>>> Mark Kelly <kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au> 4/09/2008 10:19 am >>>
>> Hi Adrian. I'm sympathetic - I go OT myself occasionally because this
>> is where most of the people are - but lengthy OT threads do pollute the
>> purpose of the list, and they do annoy people.
>>
>> I don't mind deleting the occasional OT, but when they drown out
>> legitimate postings they kill the reason for coming here. People are
>> here because the list is useful to their ITA needs. Reduce that
>> usefulness, and people leave.
>>
>> Usenet has long known this problem, and the only Usenet groups that tend
>>
>> to thrive nowadays are the moderated ones.
>>
>> I've maintained a loose hold on the reins here, allowing minor and brief
>>
>> OT threads, especially if topics are hot and urgent (e.g. reporting or
>> Rudd at certain times). But continuous OT is a different matter.
>>
>> At the risk of sparking an OT flood, what do Kevork and other people
>> here think?
>>
>> Cheers
>> Mark
>>
>> Adrian Janson wrote:
>>> Hi Mark (and all),
>>>
>>> Can I suggest a compromise?
>>>
>>> The last thing that I (or others) will want to do is to subscribe to a
>> dozen
>>> more lists based on topics that are the topics of the moment - nor
>> would I
>>> really want to subscribe to an 'Off-topic' list for the reasons you
>> have
>>> stated. This community is so well established that I feel it is
>> entirely
>>> reasonably to have this sort of discussion on this list - it's really
>>> discussions about the football or the weather that are truly
>> 'off-topic'.
>>> If those posting off-topic use the subject header of the message to
>> state
>>> this clearly, then those not interested in reading the emails simply
>> need to
>>> press the delete key (as I sometimes do). It's a slight inconvenience
>> but I
>>> feel a fair one.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Adrian
>>>
>>> Adrian Janson,
>>> VITTA President
>>> Director of ICT,
>>> Melbourne High School,
>>> Forrest Hill, South Yarra 3141 Australia.
>>> Phone: 03 9826 0711 International: +61 3 9826 0711
>>> Fax: 03 9826 8767 International: +61 3 9826 8767
>>> E-mail: janson.adrian.a at edumail.vic.gov.au
>>> Website: http://www.mhs.vic.edu.au
>>> Blog: http://jansona.edublogs.org
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au
>> [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au]
>>> On Behalf Of Mark Scott
>>> Sent: Thursday, 4 September 2008 8:49 AM
>>> To: 'Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List'
>>> Subject: RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] A Short Off topic Ruddy warning
>>>
>>>
>>> I am considering withdrawing from this email list because of the
>> amount of
>>> off-topic emails at the moment.
>>>
>>> I know lots of us are involved in the Ruddy money and ruddy networks
>> and
>>> ruddy laptops but I'm not and I'm sure lots of other ITA teachers
>> aren't
>>> either.
>>>
>>> Please take these discussions somewhere else.
>>>
>>> Mark Scott
>>> Luther College
>>> "If you don't change direction, you will probably end up where you are
>>> heading." Sara Felder
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au
>> [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au]
>>> On Behalf Of Mark Kelly
>>> Sent: Thursday, 4 September 2008 8:02 AM
>>> To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] A Short Off topic Ruddy warning
>>>
>>> Yes. But note that the Lenovo DESKTOP _is_ part of the NSSCF panel.
>>>
>>> Oops. Offtopic :-(
>>>
>>> Kent Beveridge wrote:
>>>> D'oh!...Just realised the r61 etc is part of the laptop program in
>> govt
>>> schools. D'oh!
>>>> KB.
>>>>
>>>> Kent Beveridge,
>>>> I.T. co-ordinator
>>>> St. Brigids Catholic Sec. College
>>>> Horsham
>>>> email.. kbeveridge at stbc.vic.edu.au
>>>>
>>>> |<3|\|7 b3\/3r1D93 ? ;-)
>>>>
>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>>
>>>> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Lappin, Jason M
>>>> Sent: Wed 9/3/2008 2:58 PM
>>>> To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
>>>> Subject: RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] A Short Off topic Ruddy warning
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> List
>>>> There was an email floating around a few weeks ago about problems
>> with
>>> Windows Media player and the new R61. Any help??
>>>> Jason Lappin
>>>> Year 10 Coordinator
>>>> Rutherglen High School
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>>
>>>> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Stephen Digby
>>>> Sent: Wed 3/09/2008 2:46 PM
>>>> To: 'Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List'
>>>> Subject: RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] A Short Off topic Ruddy warning
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Can you refer me to the doc that stats this ? Just to be sure....
>>>>
>>>> ====================================================
>>>> Stephen Digby, Learning Technology Manager
>>>> mailto: digby.stephen.p at edumail.vic.gov.au
>>>> Cheltenham Secondary College www.cheltsec.vic.edu.au
>>>> Ph: 613 955 55 955 Fx: 9555 8617 Mb: 0431-701-028
>>>> ====================================================
>>>> Short words are best and the old words when short are best of all.
>>> Winston
>>>> Churchill
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au
>>>> [mailto:itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au]
>>>> On Behalf Of Mark Kelly
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 3 September 2008 2:34 PM
>>>> To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
>>>> Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] A Short Off topic Ruddy warning
>>>>
>>>> For those who lease, and plan to apply for Rudd money, be aware that
>>>> we CANNOT lease with Rudd money. The state education dept has
>> forbidden
>>> it.
>>>> --
>>>> Mark Kelly
>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Mark Kelly
>>
>>
>>
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