[Year 12 Its] Re: Prim vs Secondary

[Tim K]

Hi,

I enjoyed, but only by skimming the primary, secondary debate. I wonder if
it could have been avoided by reflecting on what contribution the
distinction makes or is intended to make to our effectiveness in IT?

Tim
0425 777 230 Land line 03 5261 9354
tim.kottek at myaccess.com.au

PS: "Let's keep in mind that we are trying to help students get the correct
answer here and only that." A necessary but not sufficient driver?


-----Original Message-----
From: is-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:is-bounces at edulists.com.au]On
Behalf Of Kevork Krozian
Sent: Wednesday, 25 May 2005 2:14 PM
To: is at edulists.com.au
Subject: Re: [Year 12 Its] Re: Prim vs Secondary

Hi Kevin,

 Actually the question :

>>If so, why doesn't a biography "endorsed" by the person whose life it is
about elevate that work to a primary >>source ???

  was purely rhetorical and not a serious position. Of course endorsement
does not elevate a source to primary for reasons discussed already.

And the last word in the paragraph

> Also, we seem to by restricting a Secondary source to one where there has
to be some processing . Whilst this may happen and is commonly the case, a
restatement of the primary data from someone who was not a witness can still
make that a secondary source. Therefore, it is neither sufficient, nor
necessary for some "processing" or reinterpretation of data to take place to
tag a source as primary.

 should have read "secondary".

Let's keep in mind that we are trying to help students get the correct
answer here and only that.

Keep Well and yes, Charmaine is right, back to the teaching.
 I am trying to translate my Java lessons to VB.Net , anyone care to help
?????

Kevork
Forest Hill College

>>> feely.kevin.k at edumail.vic.gov.au 05/25/05 01:04pm >>>
Hi Kevork,
you warm the cockles of my heart!
But

snip...

If so, why doesn't a biography "endorsed" by the person whose life it is
about elevate that work to a primary source ???

...snip
No it cant, primary sources are those with direct experience, the
biographer relates the story as told to him by the person, his friends,
enemies, and published articles, even if verified by the person as true
and correct it is still secondary. The police report may be true and
accurate from witness statements but is always secondary.

> Also, we seem to by restricting a Secondary source to one where there has
to be some processing . Whilst this may happen and is commonly the case, a
restatement of the primary data from someone who was not a witness can still
make that a secondary source. Therefore, it is neither sufficient, nor
necessary for some "processing" or reinterpretation of data to take place to
tag a source as primary.
>
yepyepyepyepyepyep - I think i love you!

regards
KevinF
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