[Year 12 IPM] RE: ipm Digest, Vol 12, Issue 37

Pennie White white.pennie.l at edumail.vic.gov.au
Tue Feb 21 09:45:52 EST 2006


We have loaded audacity to over 600 laptops in the Yarra Valley for use with
year 7s.

Pennie White
Yarra Valley eLearning Community


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Today's Topics:

   1. RE: Audacity (Mark Scott)
   2. Re: Audacity (Nick Axaris)
   3. RE: Re: IT/IP&M combined class: top v bottom posting (Mark Scott)
   4. RE: Audacity (Lance Gibbens)
   5. Re: Audacity (Mark Kelly)
   6. Re: Audacity (Brett Davies)
   7. Re: Audacity (Donna Benjamin)
   8. Re: Notebooks for New Staff - DET needs to help (Nick Axaris)
   9. RE: Audacity (Diane Peat)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 08:40:32 +1100
From: "Mark Scott" <msc at staff.luther.vic.edu.au>
Subject: RE: [Year 12 IPM] Audacity
To: "Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
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Tell him it's a curriculum decision and not a technical one.

GRRRRR

Go to the Principal.

Take him to the High Court.

Appeal to the Pope.

Fight the good fight, never give in, never surrender.

Mark Scott
Luther College

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On Behalf Of S.Pastore
Sent: Tuesday, 21 February 2006 8:18
To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
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Subject: [Year 12 IPM] Audacity

Hi all,

Just wanted to know if anyone was aware of any programs like Audacity
that are 
available to purchase. My technician refuses to put Audacity on the
network as 
he doesnt like putting shareware or freeware on the network for security

reasons. I know what many of you may say - I had a long conversation
with the 
technician to no avail. Can anyone recommend another sound editing
software 
that is not too expensive and not too complicated for students. thanking
you.


-- 
Sylvia Pastore
Information Technology Department
Mowbray College
Caroline Springs






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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 08:37:56 +1100
From: na at willihigh.vic.edu.au (Nick Axaris)
Subject: Re: [Year 12 IPM] Audacity
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Your next port of call is your principal not your technician.
Your needs and those of the students are a priority over the technicians
reluctance to add something he is not really familiar with.
Security issue my right knee!!!!!




"S.Pastore" <pastosy at mowbray.vic.edu.au> on Tue, 21 Feb 2006 08:17:39 +1100
wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Just wanted to know if anyone was aware of any programs like Audacity that
are 
> available to purchase. My technician refuses to put Audacity on the
network as 
> he doesnt like putting shareware or freeware on the network for security 
> reasons. I know what many of you may say - I had a long conversation with
the 
> technician to no avail. Can anyone recommend another sound editing
software 
> that is not too expensive and not too complicated for students. thanking
you.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Sylvia Pastore
> Information Technology Department
> Mowbray College
> Caroline Springs
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 08:42:48 +1100
From: "Mark Scott" <msc at staff.luther.vic.edu.au>
Subject: RE: [Year 12 IPM] Re: IT/IP&M combined class: top v bottom
	posting
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I always top post it just makes sense.

The main offender is probably in Thailand(??) by now (you out there
Ron?)

I'm not sure we did agree or whether we were told to top post.

Mark Scott


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Sent: Tuesday, 21 February 2006 8:31
To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
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Subject: Re: [Year 12 IPM] Re: IT/IP&M combined class: top v bottom
posting

In Thunderbird, you can select whether to automatically top or bottom 
post the reply.

And yes, last year we did decide to top-post in this list.

Meadows, Roslyn M wrote:
> mmm... when I click on 'reply', the cursor neatly puts itself on the
top of the previous post (which I and most other people have already
read).
>  
> Ros Meadows
> of no fixed IP address
>  
> We've heard that a million monkeys at a million keyboards could
produce the complete works of Shakespeare; now, thanks to the Internet,
we know that is not true. 
> Robert Wilensky, speech at a 1996 conference 
> ________________________________
> 


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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 08:40:58 +1100
From: "Lance Gibbens" <Lance.Gibbens at flinders.vic.edu.au>
Subject: RE: [Year 12 IPM] Audacity
To: "Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
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Dear Sylvia,

I have been using 'Audacity' here for a long time without issue. Time you
took control of the situation in my view.

It's not a techs call. I would involve you admin. immediately... this is
nonsense.

Lance
Lance Gibbens
Head of Teaching and Learning
Flinders Christian Community College
P.O. Box 45, TYABB, 3913
Ph. 59732013 Mob 0419548036


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, 21 February 2006 8:18 AM
To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
Teachers'Mailing List
Subject: [Year 12 IPM] Audacity


Hi all,

Just wanted to know if anyone was aware of any programs like Audacity that
are 
available to purchase. My technician refuses to put Audacity on the network
as 
he doesnt like putting shareware or freeware on the network for security 
reasons. I know what many of you may say - I had a long conversation with
the 
technician to no avail. Can anyone recommend another sound editing software 
that is not too expensive and not too complicated for students. thanking
you.


-- 
Sylvia Pastore
Information Technology Department
Mowbray College
Caroline Springs






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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 08:41:53 +1100
From: Mark Kelly <kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au>
Subject: Re: [Year 12 IPM] Audacity
To: "Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
	Teachers'	Mailing List" <ipm at edulists.com.au>
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Hmmm - I think you need to think more about the choice of technician 
than the choice of software.  "Security reasons"???

I use Adobe Audition, which is expensive, but very good.

There is Ace of Wave (was Acid Wave)  $45
http://www.polyhedric.com/software/ace/index.html

Acoustica $10
http://www.sonicspot.com/acoustica/acoustica.html

and many others
http://www.sonicspot.com/sampleeditors.html

but I have not used them...


S.Pastore wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Just wanted to know if anyone was aware of any programs like Audacity that
are 
> available to purchase. My technician refuses to put Audacity on the
network as 
> he doesnt like putting shareware or freeware on the network for security 
> reasons. I know what many of you may say - I had a long conversation with
the 
> technician to no avail. Can anyone recommend another sound editing
software 
> that is not too expensive and not too complicated for students. thanking
you.
> 
> 


-- 
Mark Kelly
McKinnon Secondary College
McKinnon Rd McKinnon 3204, Victoria, Australia
Direct line / Voicemail: 8520 9085
School Phone +613 8520 9000  <<< NEW NUMBER

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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 08:53:53 +1100
From: "Brett Davies" <DAVIB at woodleigh.vic.edu.au>
Subject: Re: [Year 12 IPM] Audacity
To: <ipm at edulists.com.au>
Message-ID: <43FAD51D.374F.0080.0 at woodleigh.vic.edu.au>
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Audacity is a sensational program and I cant believe your tech has the
Audacity to refuse, he clearly has no clue. There are a lot more
technicians on the market than there are good audio software!!!!!!











Brett Davies
Woodleigh School
Golf Links Road
Baxter Vic 3911

Phone: (03) 5971 1108
Fax: (03) 5911 1010
Mobile: 0411 66 22 55
davib at woodleigh.vic.edu.au


>>> na at willihigh.vic.edu.au 2/21/2006 8:37:56 am >>>
Your next port of call is your principal not your technician.
Your needs and those of the students are a priority over the
technicians reluctance to add something he is not really familiar with.
Security issue my right knee!!!!!




"S.Pastore" <pastosy at mowbray.vic.edu.au> on Tue, 21 Feb 2006 08:17:39
+1100 wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Just wanted to know if anyone was aware of any programs like Audacity
that are 
> available to purchase. My technician refuses to put Audacity on the
network as 
> he doesnt like putting shareware or freeware on the network for
security 
> reasons. I know what many of you may say - I had a long conversation
with the 
> technician to no avail. Can anyone recommend another sound editing
software 
> that is not too expensive and not too complicated for students.
thanking you.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Sylvia Pastore
> Information Technology Department
> Mowbray College
> Caroline Springs
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 09:19:11 +1100
From: Donna Benjamin <donna at cc.com.au>
Subject: Re: [Year 12 IPM] Audacity
To: "Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
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Audacity is used professionally at Melbourne radio stations such as
FOXfm. It is industry standard software.  Don't give up on this one.

Audacity is not shareware. It is Open Source software.

Apple recommend it.
http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/audio/audacity.html

I'll 'sell' you a site-licence to use Audacity, 
and arrange software support if that's what you need.

Here's a list of audio editors. But I don't know if 
any of this is actually commercial proprietary software.
http://www.sonicspot.com/sampleeditors.html

Good luck Sylvia

Donna.

On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 08:17 +1100, S.Pastore wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Just wanted to know if anyone was aware of any programs like Audacity that
are 
> available to purchase. My technician refuses to put Audacity on the
network as 
> he doesnt like putting shareware or freeware on the network for security 
> reasons. I know what many of you may say - I had a long conversation with
the 
> technician to no avail. Can anyone recommend another sound editing
software 
> that is not too expensive and not too complicated for students. thanking
you.
> 
> 
-- 
donna benjamin - executive director
http://www.creativecontingencies.com/
ph +61 3 9326 9985 | mob +61 418 310 414
research - facilitation - web development 



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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 09:28:12 +1100
From: Nick Axaris <na at willihigh.vic.edu.au>
Subject: Re: [Year 12 IPM] Notebooks for New Staff - DET needs to help
To: "Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
	Teachers'	Mailing List" <ipm at edulists.com.au>
Message-ID: <43FA427C.5050603 at willihigh.vic.edu.au>
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Careful!!!!
You don't want to start an argument about clever marketing vs the 
establishment.
Please clarify organisational benefit?
We are a multi platform school here and the benefits far outweigh the 
negatives so please don't make those assumptions.

Stephen Digby wrote:
>
>     * The Notebooks for teachers program is administered very
>       efficiently and staff are always polite helpful and well informed.
>     * The disappearance of the distracting "gift" offers with Mac
>       notebooks is a great relief as staff choices were being made on
>       personal benefit rather than organisational benefit.
>
>



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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 09:28:55 +1100
From: "Diane Peat" <dpeat at firbank.vic.edu.au>
Subject: RE: [Year 12 IPM] Audacity
To: "Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
	Teachers'Mailing	List" <ipm at edulists.com.au>
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>From our school's point of view, Audacity is the only one we'd use ... and
"the price is right" (but the technician is wrong!). We have had it running
here for over a year without a hiccup at all, and we have very conservative
and careful technicians.

Diane Peat
ICT Manager
Firbank Grammar School
51 Outer Crescent
BRIGHTON   VIC   3186
Tel	(03) 9591 5188
Fax	(03) 9592 1394
Email	dpeat at firbank.vic.edu.au
Web	www.firbank.vic.edu.au





-----Original Message-----
From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au]On
Behalf Of S.Pastore
Sent: Tuesday, 21 February 2006 8:18 AM
To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
Teachers'Mailing List
Subject: [Year 12 IPM] Audacity

Hi all,

Just wanted to know if anyone was aware of any programs like Audacity that
are
available to purchase. My technician refuses to put Audacity on the network
as
he doesnt like putting shareware or freeware on the network for security
reasons. I know what many of you may say - I had a long conversation with
the
technician to no avail. Can anyone recommend another sound editing software
that is not too expensive and not too complicated for students. thanking
you.


--
Sylvia Pastore
Information Technology Department
Mowbray College
Caroline Springs






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