[Year 12 IPM] Record for number of messages broken !!!
Meadows, Roslyn M
Meadows.Roslyn.M at edumail.vic.gov.au
Mon Dec 4 11:38:46 EST 2006
Well if it's a 'virtual' prize it can be a Porsche!!!
Ros Meadows
Lauriston Girls School
meadowsro at lauriston.vic.edu.au <mailto:meadowsro at lauriston.vic.edu.au>
meadows.roslyn.m at edumail.vic.gov.au
Home computers are being called upon to perform many new functions, includin=
g the consumption of homework formerly eaten by the dog.
Doug Larson
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From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Mark Scott
Sent: Mon 12/4/2006 9:59 AM
To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management Teachers'Mailin=
gList
Subject: RE: [Year 12 IPM] Record for number of messages broken !!!
A minitie for the winner (big spenders down at Lauriston)
Mark Scott
"The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it=
, and join the dance." Alan Watts
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From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Be=
half Of Meadows, Roslyn M
Sent: Monday, 4 December 2006 9:41 AM
To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management Teachers'Mailin=
g List
Subject: RE: [Year 12 IPM] Record for number of messages broken !!!
It would be interesting to see a list of the top ten posters!! But then agai=
n maybe we could all work it out!!
Perhaps a competition - guess the top three posters in correct order??? A mi=
ntie for the winner!!
Thanks Kevork for your continued support!!
Cheers
Ros Meadows
Lauriston Girls School
meadowsro at lauriston.vic.edu.au <mailto:meadowsro at lauriston.vic.edu.au>
meadows.roslyn.m at edumail.vic.gov.au
Home computers are being called upon to perform many new functions, includin=
g the consumption of homework formerly eaten by the dog.
Doug Larson
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From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Keith Richardson
Sent: Sat 12/2/2006 7:19 AM
To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management Teachers'Mailin=
g List
Subject: Re: [Year 12 IPM] Record for number of messages broken !!!
Dear Santork Kev or is it Santa Kevork - You are indeed "a teacher who
changes lives" <<that's a compliment folks>> and in the spirit of
Christmas may we all collectively thank you for your listization of us
as a group.
Some years ago, Kevork, I made a suggestion that for a variety of
reasons was not taken up, and I would like to make it again. I have my
reasons for this suggestion that crystallized for me during the long
lunch periods at this year's VITTA Conference.
Each day I looked across the sea of faces, totally frustrated because
here were many friends-on-list but I was not able to RECOGNIZE THEIR
FACES because all we ever see is their names. I would have loved to
drift from list-friend to list-friend, picking up comments and
associations, and further enriching our shared experiences for the
following year.
My suggestion? <<Adjust the email list setup so that a tiny photograph
of the sender shows beside their name each time they send replies etc to
the list.>>
So there you have it. What do others think?
Merry Christmas to you all!
Keith
On Fri, 1 Dec 2006 21:47:25 +1100, "Kevork Krozian"
<kevork at edulists.com.au> said:
> Hi IPM ( soon to be itapps) colleagues,
>
> Well you have done it. In Nov 2006 you posted 435 messages ( about 15
> per day ) overtaking the previous record of 424 (Aug 2006) set by the
> Business Managers' mailing list. Remember they are at their
> desks/computers almost the whole working day and your working day is a
> different arrangement.
> I hope the interaction was useful as we enter a new dawn ..... not
> meaning to be too dramatic.
>
> While I have your attention. In the next little while the ipm mailing
> list will be retired and all subscribers will be moved to the new list
> itapps at edulists.com.au . You do not need to do anything. A message will
> go out when the changeover ( will it be direct, phased, pilot or parallel
> ???? -- just kidding ! ) takes place. Just keep replying to the
> list. For a while both ipm at edulists.com.au and itapps at edulists.com.au
> will go to the same place after which ipm at edulists.com.au will no longer
> exist ........ :( teary eyed ..... I believe it is the first name
> change for IPM since 1990, though I am happy to be corrected if that is
> wrong.
>
> A similar announcement will go out to the is at edulists.com.au list which
> will convert to sofdev at edulists.com.au .
>
> The twig on the edulists tree showing ipm will gradually shrink and be
> overtaken by the itapps twig and similarly the is twig will give way to
> the sofdev one.
>
> Anyone care to make a speech on the cusp of this momentous occasion or
> are we too busy stressing out about next year ? I am not sure about
> everyone else but I will have sofdev, yr11it and VET IT which will all
> be new next year ( I will also teach Cisco CCNA 1-2 and Cisco CCNA 3-4 ).
>
> With thanks and Best Wishes to all of you
>
> Kevork Krozian
> Mailing List Creator and Administrator
> kevork at edulists.com.au
> www.edulists.com.au
> Tel: 0419 356 034
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Roland Gesthuizen
> To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
> Teachers'Mailing List
> Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 8:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IPM] U3O2 Virtual Teams
>
>
> G'day Keith, my virtual shoes are ringing (or is it my music player).
> Yesterday my memory laces come loose with too many unanswered SMS pages
> and I had to reboot the soles. Enjoy the attached creative writing
> essay by one of my IPM students from four years ago.
>
> (* Clicks heels of his red shoes three times, shouting there is no
> place like school, there is no place like school ... *) Apologies to
> Dorothy and Toto.
>
> Regards Roland
>
>
> On 01/12/06, Keith Richardson <keithcr at fastmail.fm> wrote:
> G'day Scotty - suggestion - just timetable virtual classes with
> virtual
> teachers in virtual spaces then the kids stay at home, the teachers
> stay
> in the staffroom (to be close to the coffee machines), and the school
> puts extra Moodle servers into the empty classrooms. Time becomes
> immaterial because classes may be held either synchronously (if you
> were
> able to put them together in the timetable, and asynchronistically at
> other times. It sounds so good, I might just give it a try
> (joking...).
> Cheers, Keith
>
>
> On Fri, 1 Dec 2006 07:26:21 +1100, "Mark Scott"
> <msc at staff.luther.vic.edu.au> said:
> > Keith
> >
> > You sound so progressive and dynamic that it is depressing, especial=
ly
> > when I am knee deep in the mire trying to build a 2007 timetable and
> > haven't looked at the study design yet.
> >
> > (Pls excuse the whinge)
> > Mark Scott
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:ipm-bounces at edulists.com.a=
u]
> > On Behalf Of Keith Richardson
> > Sent: Friday, 1 December 2006 6:20 AM
> > To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
> > Teachers'Mailing List
> > Subject: RE: [Year 12 IPM] U3O2 Virtual Teams
> >
> > Thank you Mark and Paula - although I don't like it, I can see where=
you
> > are coming from.
> > I personally do not like it because having to 'fake-it' rarely leave=
s me
> > or the kids satisfied - it seems like science experiments of old whe=
re
> > we tell the kids what 'should' have happened even though their eyes=
and
> > ears tell them that it did not.
> > I guess that as long as we expose them to actually functioning tools
> > albeit not in their actual SAC, they can become intuitively confiden=
t
> > that such functionality does really exist. In the past I have
> > experienced similar frustrations with wanting to have functioning
> > databases behind websites.
> > However, for myself I intend trying as hard as possible to achieve
> > genuine functionality of appropriate virtual-team-tools within their=
SAC
> > situation. Time will tell!
> > Keith
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 08:29:14 +1100, "Christophersen, Paula P"
> > <christophersen.paula.p at edumail.vic.gov.au > said:
> > > Mark and colleagues
> > >
> > > This last interpretation of the outcome (and task requirements) an=
d
> > > advice about teaching and learning and assessment are timely and
> > > correct.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Paula
> > >
> > > Paula Christophersen
> > > ICT Curriculum Manager
> > > Victorian Curriculum and Assessment
> > > Authority
> > > 41 St Andrews Place
> > > EAST MELBOURNE 3002
> > > Phone: 03 9651 4378
> > > Fax: 03 9651 4324
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:ipm-bounces at edulists.com=
.au]
> > > On Behalf Of Mark Kelly
> > > Sent: Wednesday, 29 November 2006 8:21 AM
> > > To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
> > > Teachers'Mailing List
> > > Subject: Re: [Year 12 IPM] U3O2 Virtual Teams
> > >
> > > Key things to remember abuout ITA U3O2, as I understand it...
> > >
> > > - Knowledge sharing is part of it, but the solution must also
> > facilitate
> > >
> > > team decision-making. (So a static website with info on it - as i=
n
> > the
> > > Potts example - is not good.)
> > >
> > > - Features that can't be realistically created for real can be
> > > simulated. e.g. Create a web forum lookalike screen in Photoshop;=
fake
> > a
> > >
> > > web-shopping checkout or online feedback form, or a networked cale=
ndar
> > > or booking sheet with graphics buttons and the like. Since it's a
> > > prototype website, such parts do not need to actually work. So th=
e
> > kids
> > >
> > > don't need to actually set up a Miki or a Woogle, they just have t=
o
> > > indicate that they know it would help the team share info / make
> > > collaborative decisions.
> > >
> > > - So by all means introduce kids to relevant tools, but don't frea=
k
> > > yourself out unnecessarily about having to use them in the outcome=
.
> > >
> > > As I understand it...
> > >
> > > Mark
> > >
> > > Keith Richardson wrote:
> > > > I am also very confused by this Geraldine - I am almost tempted=
to
> > try
> > > > to do it in two parts - one with website creation, and one using=
our
> > > > Moodle in the school setting them the task to design then create
> > > various
> > > > cooperative, virtual team tools and be able to demonstrate that=
they
> > > > actually work. I have not planned more deeply than that yet.
> > > > What do others think?
> > > > Keith
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 22:23:11 +1100, "Geraldine McKenna"
> > > > <gmckenna at ozemail.com.au> said:
> > > >> I still feel quite unclear about what is expected in this outco=
me.
> > > Would
> > > >> a
> > > >> link to the Google Docs site mentioned recently suffice or a li=
nk
> > to
> > > a
> > > >> Moodle wiki for sharing knowledge or a blog? Given that we need=
to
> > > use
> > > >> web
> > > >> authoring software - Dreamweaver in my case - I can only imagin=
e
> > > creating
> > > >> links to other tools rather than actually creating the knowledg=
e
> > > sharing
> > > >> capability within the website. Can anyone give more specific
> > examples
> > > of
> > > >> how
> > > >> they imagine this prototype website will look?
> > > >> Geraldine McKenna
> > > >> Avila College
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks also for feedback re VET Multimedia. Seems it may not be=
a
> > > more
> > > >> attractive option for girls?
> > > >>
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au
> > > [mailto: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au]On
> > > >> Behalf Of Christophersen, Paula P
> > > >> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 8:33 AM
> > > >> To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
> > > >> Teachers'MailingList
> > > >> Subject: RE: [Year 12 IPM] U3O2 Virtual Teams
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Dear colleagues
> > > >>
> > > >> It's great to hear this healthy discussion regarding Unit 3,
> > Outcome
> > > 2.
> > > >> I just want to stress that when students independently develop
> > their
> > > >> prototype website, it is OK just to simulate practices/tools ra=
ther
> > > than
> > > >> creating/using them. The main intention of this part of the out=
come
> > > is
> > > >> for students to demonstrate their understanding of tools/facili=
ties
> > > >> available to support knowledge sharing and collaborative
> > > >> decision-making.
> > > >>
> > > >> So, when completing this assessment task, students would design=
the
> > > >> website, create the homepage and create/simulate that part of t=
he
> > > >> website that supports knowledge sharing and collaborative decis=
ion
> > > >> making. Then, comes the theory part on networking.
> > > >>
> > > >> Regards
> > > >> Paula
> > > >>
> > > >> Paula Christophersen
> > > >> ICT Curriculum Manager
> > > >> Victorian Curriculum and Assessment
> > > >> Authority
> > > >> 41 St Andrews Place
> > > >> EAST MELBOURNE 3002
> > > >> Phone: 03 9651 4378
> > > >> Fax: 03 9651 4324
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au
> > > [mailto:ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au]
> > > >> On Behalf Of Cameron Bell
> > > >> Sent: Friday, 24 November 2006 8:05 AM
> > > >> To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
> > > >> Teachers'Mailing List
> > > >> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IPM] U3O2 Virtual Teams
> > > >>
> > > >> Likewise. I am wondering about setting up a Jabber server for s=
uch
> > a
> > > >> purpose. Simply to reduce external traffic costs and bandwidth=
and
> > > keep
> > > >> it fully internal and "safer" for students. Has anyone done thi=
s
> > yet?
> > > >> Would be interested in feedback.
> > > >> Cameron
> > > >>
> > > >> Keith Richardson wrote:
> > > >>> Skype has enabled some of the virtual teams I work in to be fa=
st,
> > > >>> efficient and effective, but it is real-time. One also needs
> > > >>> a-synchronous tools too.
> > > >>> Keith
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Thu, 23 Nov 2006 15:30:47 +1100, "Mark Kelly"
> > > >>> <kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au> said:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> Yes, but is email a complete solution? It's certainly releva=
nt
> > and
> > > >>>> important, but can it achieve everything a virtual team needs=
?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> I ask myself (as 3:30 comes and I have to drag myself to a
> > > curriculum
> > > >>>> meeting) why I'm dragging myself to a meeting. Why couldn't=
it
> > be
> > > >> done
> > > >>>> by email? If you can work that out, you may start to see whe=
re
> > > >> email's
> > > >>>> limitations begin.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> 2.2 cents' worth (GST inc)
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Off to curriculum. VELS again.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Sigh........
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> jtabone at aitkencollege.edu.au wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> Dear All
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> I am reading with interest everyone's comments on U302 -
> > > >>>>> collaborative problem solving within virtual teams and am
> > > wondering
> > > >>>>> if I may be over-simplifying this outcome task
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Going by the detailed example in the study design p. 69-70 w=
e
> > are
> > > >>>>> given the scenario of university located on one
> > > >>>>> "large campus", whereby management has recently formed as on=
e of
> > > >>>>> their key objectives to "strengthen current strategic
> > > collaborations
> > > >>>>> and forge new alliances that will create new knowledge ..."
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> The task is then:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> "design and create a prototype website for Sherwood Universi=
ty
> > > that
> > > >>>>> will enable various virtual teams ... to realise their goals=
and
> > > to
> > > >>>>> enhance decision making, knowledge sharing and collaborative
> > > problem
> > > >>>>> solving"
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Couldn't simply having an email link solve this problem - ye=
s
> > you
> > > >>>>> would use wikis, blogs, forums, webcasts, and every other "s=
exy"
> > > >>>>> tool
> > > >>>>> - however I can communicate virtually via email to people wi=
th
> > the
> > > >>>>> same interest (teams)
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Really, isn't that what I am doing right now - sending an em=
ail
> > to
> > > a
> > > >>>>> group of people with a common interest and goal and sharing
> > > >>>>> information and receiving information in a collaborative
> > > environment
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Just my thoughts
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Cheers
> > > >>>>> Joyce Tabone
> > > >>>>> Aitken College
> > > >>>>>
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