[Year 12 IPM] FW: some help needed re IT enrolments

Roland Gesthuizen rge at westallsc.vic.edu.au
Wed Nov 30 11:35:43 EST 2005


At the recent 2005 state conference, VITTA organized a think tank 
workshop involving many different stake holders on this and other 
issues. As these discussions will be of considerable interest to 
everybody, a transcript or summary is being prepared by David Dawson. No 
other news or surprises but keep your ear on the ground.

Here is a nice quote to inspire you all. ;-)
" Even if you are on the right track, you'll get run over if you just 
sit there. - Will Rogers."

Regards Roland

McDonald, Debra A1 wrote:

>We have the opposite here students are streamed into IPM as IS is not even on the subject selection list but it is in their books. but due to it not being allotted a allotment students do not know what they are putting it up against and hence do not pick it. so unfair and I am tying to rectify it but to no avail so far.
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>next year we have only 1 ipm class and 1 yr 11 it class. down 37 kids from 2 years ago. think it may be due to changed in teachers and student engagement.
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>well here's hoping for next year.
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>Debra McDonald 
>Lyndhurst Secondary College
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>From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Jim Bunn
>Sent: Wed 30/11/05 10:25 AM
>To: 'Year 12 Information Technology Processing and ManagementTeachers'Mailing List'
>Subject: RE: [Year 12 IPM] FW: some help needed re IT enrolments
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>The same trend is here at Hampton Park Secondary College. We do have a stand alone Information Systems class, but not enough for an IPM class. This is the first time ever for us. It was going to be scrapped but I convinced the AP to do a combined 11-12 class. We have enough year 11s to also do a stand alone year 11 IT as well.
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>Jim Bunn
>CCNA CCAI
>Technology Coordinator
>Hampton Park Secondary College
>Victoria  Australia
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>bunn.jim.c at edumail.vic.gov.au 
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>From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Fusinato, Margaret M
>Sent: Wednesday, 30 November 2005 9:41 AM
>To: ipm at edulists.com.au
>Subject: [Year 12 IPM] FW: some help needed re IT enrolments
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>I have been approached to post the information below on the IPM list for open discussion / comments. Any comments posted in open forum I am happy to forward to Catherine. 
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>At Trafalgar the numbers of students choosing IT are definitely lower than in the past, as I have previously stated in list discussions. Next year for the first time I will be running a combined class as the number choosing Units 1 & 2 and 3 & 4 were not sufficient for a stand alone in each area. Doing the math, the take up for IPM here is less then 1% and Systems roughly 2% next year. That figure breaks down to about equal male and female in IPM and in Systems all but one student is male.
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>Margaret Fusinato
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>Trafalgar High School
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>Hi Margaret,
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>I thought I would enlist some help from you. The first area is VCE IPM and IS enrolment statistics/proportions. I want to indicate the proportion of students who study these subjects. I have searched the VCAA website and found the 2004 stats, which are fine, and am looking just at unit 4 enrolments.
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>According to this site (http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/statistics/2004/statssect1.print.html) in Table 1.2 Unit results by gender and level 2004, there were 126,119 males who completed unit 4 VCE subjects, and 144,124 females.
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>Then on the same site, in the individual subject unit completion outcomes, we have 2222 males who completed the IS subject, and only 176 females, and in IPM 4933 males and 2384 females.
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>Using my calculator that means that only 1.8% of males in the state completed IS, and 0.1% of the females.
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>IPM is slightly better, with 4% of all VCE males and 1.7% of females.
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>Does that seem correct? Do you (or the VCE coordinator) get any report on where each subject sits on proportional enrolments?
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>It is very low. 
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>Feel free to post my query on your teacher discussion board. I would benefit from some 'on the ground' input.
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>Catherine Lang
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>Lecturer, Faculty of ICT
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>Swinburne University of Technology, Hawthorn, Australia
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>phone: +613 9214 5884
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>http://www.ict.swin.edu.au/ictstaff/clang <http://www.ict.swin.edu.au/ictstaff/clang> 
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>MACS, MACM, ACM-W Australian Ambassador
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>http://www.austwic.com
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