[Year 12 IPM] OT - How big is your internet bill?

Wed Nov 23 12:18:13 EST 2005

Main control is papercut software which keeps costs in front of students.
Second control is block of sites, file types and file sizes that cause blowouts e.g. mp3, mov, mpeg

Will continually refine and look for better ways to prioritise (e.g. would love to ......large files/ pages get low priority etc,
one student only gets max fraction of avaialble bandwidth)
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Stephen Digby, Learning Technology Manager digby.stephen.p at edumail.vic.gov.au
Cheltenham Secondary College www.cheltsec.vic.edu.au Ph: 613 955 55 955  Fx: 9555 8617
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From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Wayne Hewett
Sent: Wednesday, 23 November 2005 11:03 AM
To: ipm at edulists.com.au
Subject: Re: [Year 12 IPM] OT - How big is your internet bill?

At RSC we have 1350 students
Our contract with netspace is capped at the 40Gb plan of $600/month + annual charges.Daily download is about 1.2 gb  for both staff
and students.

We wont be upgraded to the 2 meg link until net october ( the last secondary college on the peninsula to be upgraded) and are
concerned our download will blow out.

What active and passive controls do schools use to restrict download to manageable levels - keeping in mind a recent DEET comunique?

Wayne Hewett
Rosebud Secondary College

>>> fiona at balmoralhs.vic.edu.au 23/11/2005 10:17:56 am >>>
80 kids, unlimited download, no charge to the kids or staff. the staff download more than the kids some months. probably a total of
100 users so works out at around $1.66 per person for download.  Hopefully the new myinternet charges wont make so much of a
difference in costs even if our usage goes up.  In the past 12 months we have gone from 56k download to 128 and now, finally, after
being promised it for 2 years we have broadband and 2 meg. 40 times faster (if my calculations are right) since this time last year.
Must admit we will probably have to start charging the students or limiting them in some way, something that it has been a
deliberate policy at this school not to do.

Fiona
Mark Kelly <kel at mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au> on Wed, 23 Nov 2005 09:57:06
+1100 wrote:
> Thanks, Fiona.  It might be instructive for future respondents to 
> indicate how many students their school has.
> 
> McKinnon SC has about 1360 kids - i.e. $1.42 per kid per month at
9c/M.
> 
> Kids pay for their own downloads after a 'free' $10 credit at the
start 
> of the year.
> 
> The total school costs include teachers' downloads too.
> 
> fiona at balmoralhs.vic.edu.au wrote:
> > from one extreme to another how about 1.5meg per month approx and a
complete budget include ISP and costs of $2500.  I know this will go up next year but hopefully not by too much
> > Fiona Bain
> > Balmoral High School
> > 
> > "McDonald, Debra A1" <mcdonald.debra.a1 at edumail.vic.gov.au> on Wed,
23 Nov 2005 09:04:29 +1100 wrote:
> > 
> >>at our school we only pay $12,000 -$13,000 per year for aapt and
myinternet. but we know next year it will  go up. not sure on the amount of megabytes that we generally use but will let you know
when the next bill comes in. 
> >> 
> >> 
> >>Debra McDonald
> >>E-Learning Coordinator
> >>Lyndhurst Secondary College
> >>Cranbourne
> >>(03) 5996 0144
> >> 
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> >>
> >>For the 3 months from Aug-Oct, my college's total internet traffic
costs
> >>(not including ADSL line charges or subscription fees) was $5810
inc
> >>GST.  Approx $1936 per month.  Total of 58,109 megabytes.
> >>
> >>Just wondering where I'm standing in the ballpark compared to you
guys.
> >>
> >>Mark K
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