[Year 12 IPM] ICT and IT? Justification

Rod Kendall rod.kendall at overnewton.vic.edu.au
Wed Nov 16 15:42:37 EST 2005


Peter
 
Below is a table showing our Middle School IT program. We have this as
an interim step for 1-2 years working on the fact that the VELS model
will change some of this. We have tried to make sure that we keep a good
theory component going as well.
 
See what you think
 
Rod
 
Proposed IT Curriculum structure in Years 5 to 8 for 2006 and beyond
 
Changes based on the following:
 
New Theory component to be at each year level but set as homework tasks
with class discussion - include 7 areas of computer competition.
Typing to remain constant through each year level
 
 
 
Year level
Topic 1
Topic 2
Topic 3
5
Microsoft Publisher (Magazine)      
Digital Camera work  
7 weeks
Intro to Excel
+, -, X and /
Graphing wizard
Formatting
3 weeks
 
6
Microworlds
6 weeks
MS. PowerPoint    
With MS Producer
4 weeks  
 
7
Excel
Sum
Average
Percentage
Database interrogation (sorting with filters)
Mail merge
3 weeks
Robotics
Control of RCX
Programming functions
Design
Challenges
 
 
5 weeks
Image Editing
Intro to PaintShop Pro
Open
Crop
Select
Modify
Clone
(Effects and Adjust Menu)
1-2 weeks
8
Flash
Basic Tools
Create animation
5 weeks
Video Editing
MS Moviemaker
 
3 weeks
Website 
Frontpage -
Culmination of flash and video
2 weeks
 
 
 
 
 
 
Rod Kendall
Head of Information and Communication Technologies (ICT)
Head of Information Technology (Keilor Campus)
Overnewton Anglican Community College
2-30 Overnewton Rd 
Keilor  VIC 3036
Direct Tel : 03 9334 0134
Mobile: 0418 138 601
Fax: 03 9336 1835
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From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au]
On Behalf Of O'Connor, Peter T
Sent: 16 November 2005 3:16 PM
To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
Teachers'Mailing List
Subject: RE: [Year 12 IPM] ICT and IT? Justification
 
Rod,
 
 It has taken me a while to put something on significance on this list
but I have been embarrassed into it by the recent thread about us
lurkers!1 :)
 
Whilst I agree with a lot of your sentiments, I think we do need to be
able to mount more compelling arguments to justify the position of IT in
the curriculum. 
 
I take your point about English, however there are a number of subjects
that enter the curriculum in their own right for the first time at VCE
eg Legal Studies, Accounting, Health and Human Development, Psychology
to name a few. Subjects like Maths, English and LOTE do need to have the
foundations built in the lower years but I am not so sure about many
other subjects including IT.
 
One of the other things that worries me a little, is that whenever we
come up with a Year 7/8 course for example (and I admit to being very
guilty here) we fall back on those hoary old chestnuts - Word, Excel,
Powerpoint and (for heavens sake) Access. It is little wonder that other
KLAs cry out that they can do that as well as anyone else - a lot of it
is monkey see monkey do. And don't get me started on Access -no one in
their right mind would ever use seriously in business or anywhere else
for that matter  - IMHO.
 
I am inspired by people like Keith Richardson who comes up with video,
multimedia etc. That is where we are heading I suspect. Yet even, as I
write, people are all over the Cert I stuff that has been on the list
today.
 
I do not profess to have all or any of the answers to out dilemma but I
think we need to seriously think about where we want to take IT as a
subject.
 
__________
Peter O'Connor
Bayside College
 
 
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From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au]
On Behalf Of Rod Kendall
Sent: Wednesday, 16 November 2005 12:59 PM
To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
Teachers'Mailing List
Subject: [Year 12 IPM] ICT and IT? Justification
Dear All
 
This follows on from the discussion that Keith started months ago.......
 
I think that we need to get clear in our own heads the difference
between ICT and IT.
 
Here are a few questions that need to be answered?
 
As a subject area, do we not have content that is subject specific to be
taught ? Eg SDLC, Hardware and Software. I see IT curriculum as
important as any other subject area. We have a curriculum that
culminates in a VCE study either IPM or IS. It is ridiculous to say that
students can turn up in Year 10/11 and suddenly acquire the full range
of skills and knowledge to pass these VCE exams. We do not do that to
students of English. (My College teaches the basis of programming
concepts and the SDLC (and other like topis) as low as Year 5 - this
provides the basis for a steady build up of skills and knowledge through
Year 5, 6, 7 , 8 , 9 (compulsory IT) and Years 10,11, and 12 (optional).
 
Are there not skills that IT will teach that may not be covered in an
ICT based curriculum? Eg creating access databases, how to connect up a
scanner etc
 
I find it hard to swallow that we cannot justify our own curriculum.
 
These are my thoughts...interested in others
 
 
Rod
Rod Kendall
Head of Information and Communication Technologies (ICT)
Head of Information Technology (Keilor Campus)
Overnewton Anglican Community College
2-30 Overnewton Rd 
Keilor  VIC 3036
Direct Tel : 03 9334 0134
Mobile: 0418 138 601
Fax: 03 9336 1835
________________________________

From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au]
On Behalf Of Martin, Michael M
Sent: 16 November 2005 12:22 PM
To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
Teachers'Mailing List
Subject: RE: [Year 12 IPM] RE: ICT Coordinator duties and time
allowances
 

I have concerns with ICT according to VELS.   Our IPM classes are down
from 3 this year to 1 next year.  My principal is talking about removing
IT from Years 7 and 8, making 9/10 as electives and teaching ICT skills
across the other subject.  Many teachers seem to have concerns.  What
are the navigator schools doing?  What is their approach to ICT
according to VELS?  Please advise.
 
 
Michael Martin
Copperfield College
 
 
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From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Roland Gesthuizen
Sent: Mon 14/11/2005 4:39 PM
To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
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Subject: Re: [Year 12 IPM] RE: ICT Coordinator duties and time
allowances
Thanks for the post Leanne, sad to read some of these changes going on
around the traps. How do they fit into the broader context of the
implementation of VELS into your school? We may need to watch that we
don't inflict up on students a new ailment of "IT death by Google or
powerpoint". It has taken some convincing here that IT has been much
much more ever teaching kids how to use PowerPoint.

Somebody asked what it would take to replace an ICT trained teacher. I
have been a wag to respond in kind if there was a 2 hour workshop that
an ICT teacher could do before teaching a year 10 English class ..
afterall, don't we all speak, read and write English? (no disrespect
intended to English staff)  I have also insisted  that I embrace my work
as part of a professional learning team but will be offended if I am not
consulted or it is assumed that I have been.

I like some aspects of VELS but also understand that most IT trained
teachers have studied long and hard to qualify for their method area.
Naturally they may feel quite alone and humiliated if they are sidelined
and marginalised from any discussions about these changes.

Regards Roland

Biggins, Leanne D wrote:

>Hi Ros,
>This year at Heathmont College, the program manager / coordinator (me)
has had 2 periods allowance per 10 day cycle - ie 1 period per week.
>The duties include liasing with the ICT tech staff who service the
entire college, looking after budgets and orders, and checking that the
relevant exams are prepared and submitted.
>Since I have been the only full time IT teacher for the last 2 years,
most of this just related to me, but there have been up to 5 others
taking a class or 3 here and there.  I have done curriculum where there
were parallel classes to mine, and suggested units in the classes that I
don't teach, but I am not officially responsible for curriculum and
neither are any of the other program managers.  Who is? I don't know!!!
I think that it is assumed that curriculum just hapens!
>
>Next year my role will change - to help deal with VELs.  I will be a
teaching and learning coach with a focus on ICT and still have the
program manager's responsibilities. I will have 9 periods per cycle.  We
have lost IT at years 8 and 10, and have had a semester block at year 7
in all of my time at this school.  My role next year will include going
into other classes to help students / staff to cover the integrated IT
and to help students to progress in their skills there.  I guess I will
be asked advice as well, since there will not be time to go into as many
classes as would like to utilise my presence.
>
>We'll see how it goes next year.  I see it as a postion full of
potential and positives, but it may all fall over.  I despair that
students will only use the skills that they come in with initially, and
I hope to help them progress.
>
>Leanne Biggins
>Heathmont College
>
>________________________________
>
>From: ipm-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Meadows, Roslyn M
>Sent: Thu 10/11/2005 1:58 PM
>To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
Teachers'Mailing List
>Subject: ICT Coordinator duties and time allowances
>
>
>I am currently pushing to have an ICT Coordinator position reinstated
in our school (we have had no position and no time allowance available
for this position this year)
>
>Just a quick email asking others briefly
>
>
>*     
>       What are your responsibilities?
>
>*     
>       What is your time allowance?
>
>Any feedback asap would be really appreciated
>
>Cheers
>
>Ros Meadows
>Bentleigh SC
>9579 1044
>meadows.roslyn.m at edumail.vic.gov.au
>
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