[elearning] [Year 12 IT Apps] [OT] Are iPads 'computers'?

Fri Dec 10 13:07:31 EST 2010

While you can't buy iPads with NSSCF money, iPads do count toward your 1:2
or 1:1 ratio.

On 10 December 2010 12:19, Kevork Krozian <K.Krozian at fhc.vic.edu.au> wrote:

>  Hi Folks,
>
>
>
>  This may be topical as I thought Ipads are considered to be computers
> under NSSCF funding , but apparently they are not.
>
> The email below ( at the bottom by Andrew Weir ) suggests DEEWR considers
> Ipads as computers for NSSCF funding, but the following suggests it is not (
> https://edugate.eduweb.vic.gov.au/Services/IT/ITSupport/Lists/NSSCF%20FAQs/DispForm.aspx?ID=38&Source=https%3A%2F%2Fedugate%2Eeduweb%2Evic%2Egov%2Eau%2FServices%2FIT%2FITSupport%2FPages%2FNSSCF%2Easpx) – need an edumail account to view the link :
>
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>
>
>
> *Question*
>
> Can schools purchase Apple iPads using funds provided through the NSSCF?
>
> *Answer*
>
> No.
>
> The iPad is not an approved device on DEECD's purchasing panels as the iPad
> does not support the eduSTAR standard operating environment which includes
> more than 60 teaching and learning applications and tools.
>
> DEECD is undertaking an iPad trial for middle year levels in 8 Victorian
> Government schools to evaluate the potential of the iPad as a learning tool.
> The DEECD iPad Trial will be conducted over the next 18 months and research
> results will inform any future technology directions that can enhance
> teaching and learning outcomes.
>
> *Category*
>
> Purchasing
>
>
>
>
>
> Where are we at with this ?
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>
>
> Kind Regards
>
>
>
> Kevork Krozian
>
> Digital Learning Manager
>
> Forest Hill College
>
> www.fhc.vic.edu.au
>
> tel: 0419 356 034
>
>
>
> *From:* itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:
> itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] *On Behalf Of *WEIR Andrew
> *Sent:* Thursday, 5 August 2010 9:54 AM
>
> *To:* Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
> *Subject:* Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] [OT] Are iPads 'computers'?
>
>
>
> Mark,
>
> (See below my rant)
>
> This was a statement circulated to the CEO schools. (At the end of my bit)
>
> We looked at the ipad; they are a nice media consumption device but we were
> a bit concerned about getting data on and off the device IE USB
> connectivity, student file space and printing.
>
> Also word processors and presentation tools are not included in the package
> so we had to add another Approx $40 to the cost of the device to purchase
> those apps, I am not sure about site and volume licensing from apple for
> ipad apps.
>
> I know things like Google docs could replace the need for the apps such as
> pages, but with the wireless running at all times battery life gets
> shortened and the ipad does not charge from a standard charger, it actually
> requires a 1 amp usb port and I believe most computers max out a 500 –
> 700ma. So the availability and OHS requirements for the power need to be
> considered.
>
> There was also the issue of support and Jail Braking. There are pro’s and
> cons for custom OS and other things but what then happens to the security of
> the network. Should schools support devices that have been jail broken and
> how can we stop students Jail braking the device especially if we let them
> take the devices home.
>
>
>
> From a LOTE, Humanities and to some point English point of view we did find
> some major benefits and have not ruled out purchasing two class sets but as
> the main stream student device we are not totally convinced of version 1 of
> the ipad. Let’s see what apple says for second generation.
>
> Some of the pro’s were ITunes university, Ipad books especially Shakespeare
> and other novels.
>
> Also at this point we are actually taking a step back from technology and
> really look at the curriculum so that it is supported and enhanced by
> whatever “device” we choose.
>
> Anyway this is only just the opinion of a teacher getting over a bad dose
> of flu. So happy to see a healthy discussion.
>
> Andrew
>
>
>
> *****************************************************************
>
> *iPad*
>
> Many schools have also asked if the new iPad would be approved as a
> ‘computer’ under the DER
>
> funding. Initially, the advice from DEEWR was that it was not eligible.
> However, the following advice was
>
> received by us on 23 June:
>
> *Many of you have sought advice about whether the new Apple iPad meets
> eligibility requirements*
>
> *under the National Secondary School Computer Fund. I would like to advise
> that DEEWR*
>
> *considers that the iPad does meet the existing definitions of an eligible
> computer device under*
>
> *the Fund. An iPad is a particular type of tablet computer and these have
> been considered as*
>
> *eligible devices since the implementation of the Fund in 2008.*
>
> *A tablet, including the iPad, allows users to input information via
> QWERTY typing, it runs word*
>
> *processing and other efficiency applications and it provides a means of
> accessing information*
>
> *from the Internet. The major difference between a tablet and a
> conventional laptop is that the*
>
> *keyboard is a software generated function on a screen rather than a
> physical object. The iPad*
>
> *runs different applications from other laptops.*
>
> *In summary, DEEWR considers that the iPad, as a tablet, can be purchased
> under the Fund but*
>
> *it is a matter for education authorities/schools to decide if the
> application suite on an iPad meets*
>
> *the educational needs of their students.*
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>
>
>
>
> *Andrew Weir*
>
> Information Technology Co-ordinator
>
> Thomas Carr College
>
>
>        <http://www.thomascarr.vic.edu.au>
>
>
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au [mailto:
> itapps-bounces at edulists.com.au] *On Behalf Of *Mark KELLY
> *Sent:* Thursday, 5 August 2010 9:08 AM
> *To:* Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List
> *Subject:* [Year 12 IT Apps] [OT] Are iPads 'computers'?
>
>
>
> A poser just occurred to me as I plan budgets for next year: if we buy
> iPads, would they count as *computers* in the annual school ICT inventory
> (and therefore count towards DEECD's planned 1:1 ratio of year 9-12 students
> per computer)?
>
> --
> Mark Kelly
> Manager - Information Systems; Reporting Manager
> McKinnon Secondary College
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