[elearning] Photography darkrooms v Mac lab

Fri Aug 21 15:03:45 EST 2009

Yes I know only too well about the effect digital technologies and devt are having on the photography industry - my husband has been retrenched twice since the turn of the century in the photographic industry. Once from Ilford - photographic papers and chem, now entirely imported. and the next from Ricoh, who also reduced their film cameras... not sure if they wiped them entirely, but they also didn't repair them any more.

I really don't think you can ask outside your own school situation, depends on the staff and students if they are prepared to bear the high cost.... 

Suzanne Arnott
eLearning Leader
Sandringham College
Holloway Rd
Sandringham, 3191

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Kodachrome slide film is no longer made, Kodak ceased production in
June this year. Pity, as it does (as Suzanne says) produce the most
spectacularly rich colours. Been in production for 74 years -
beautiful stuff.

http://homepage.1000words.kodak.com/default.asp?item=2388083

Dwayne's Photos in Kansas US is the onlyremaining Kodak-registered lab
able to process Kodachrome.

Nikon no longer makes 35mm film camera bodies except maybe the F6 (and
opinions vary on this)

AgfaPhoto filed for bankruptcy in 2005
http://www.newratings.com/en/main/company_headline.m?&id=846473

I sold most of my Minolta and Pentax film cameras before they became
worthelss to a guy in Vic who told me that the only people who buy
that stuff is schools. (I used to collect and repair cameras)

So, yes, wet photography is a wonderful art form, but its fast
becoming an expensive luxury. It's not easy to rationalise about
scrapping an art form - I'm sure if you had a silversmithing or
bronzecasting course yo'd meet opposition if you tried to scrap it.

However they need to be aware that they are working in an area of
increasing cost ,lower availability of supplies and decreasing
relevance.

Good luck...
Ken
(TASITE Tasmania)

On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Arnott, Suzanne
S<arnott.suzanne.s at edumail.vic.gov.au> wrote:
> black and white is still available, as is colour slides which produce the most rich and amazing colours you could imagine, which digital inks have not yet matches.
> As far as archival stability, black and white images will last a lot longer than digital prints.
>
>
> Suzanne Arnott
> eLearning Leader
> Sandringham College
> Holloway Rd
> Sandringham, 3191
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: elearning-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Mark Kelly
> Sent: Fri 21/08/2009 1:41 PM
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> Subject: Re: [elearning] Photography darkrooms v Mac lab
>
> Golly.  Can you still even _buy_ film?
>
> Northey, Blaise J wrote:
>> Hello all,
>>
>>
>>
>> I am in the process of finalising purchases for next year and I have hit
>> a technological impasse with the art department.  I see their current
>> darkroom as being the ideal space to put in high-performing Macs.
>> Needless to say the art department still want to keep the darkroom as
>> the curriculum is set up for it.  I did some informal research and it
>> indicated that darkrooms are becoming more and more obsolete.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am hoping that someone out there will have experienced the shift from
>> darkroom to digital and could enlighten me (pun not intended) of how
>> they went about convincing the teachers to take the leap.  I would also
>> be open to persuasion if someone has any compelling opinions as to if I
>> should keep a darkroom.  I have entertained making a much smaller room
>> as well as having a computer room.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanking you in advance,
>>
>>
>>
>> Blaise Northey
>>
>> IT Manager / eLearning and Pedagogy
>>
>> Patterson River Secondary College
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>> ph 8770 6700
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>> fax 9786 9810
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