[Design and Technology] Re: destech Digest, Vol 42, Issue 11
John Doubleday
john at southcom.com.au
Mon Aug 18 17:12:08 EST 2008
One of my TEAM WORK VIDEOS at:
http://www.teachertube.com/view_video.php?viewkey=65a865b9c932ebb07289
cheers
John
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> 1. RE: Re: team work U2 year 11. (Heather Aeschlimann)
> 2. Technology Dept. maintenance template?? (Ian Marshall)
> 3. RE: Re: team work U2 year 11. (Steve Catanzariti)
> 4. Re: destech Digest, Vol 42, Issue 9 (John Doubleday)
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>Subject: RE: [Design and Technology] Re: team work U2 year 11.
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>Hi
>I do not like unit 2 as I find group work tends to reward the lazy students
>and over burden the better ones. My teams designed a set of furniture and
>each member makes their own piece out of the set. Still a lot to do in 1
>semester.
>Cheers, Heather
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: destech-bounces at edulists.com.au
>[mailto:destech-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Frank Burgers
>Sent: Friday, 15 August 2008 4:14 PM
>To: Design and Technology Teachers' Mailing List
>Subject: [Design and Technology] Re: team work U2 year 11.
>
>Hello to all.
>
>I'd be interested to hear feedback in regard to success or otherwise with
>the student design team work in Unit 2. Unfortunately I am at a small school
>and my clientel, nine of them, are not all terribly motivated to achieve in
>Design and Technology. In fact, out if the nine only one kid is genuinly
>interested in the subject. I've put them in 3 teams; in one team none of
>them wish to achieve; they are kept at school by their family against their
>wishes. Team 2 has medium capacity, they'll do their work if I insist hard
>enough and some of it is not too bad. Team 3; one kid wants to achieve, one
>kid couldn't care less and the other just wants to pass but is capable. The
>guy who wants to achieve feels he is being held back by the rest of his team
>who can't get their act together. I advised him to get into production
>independendly and that I may have to give him extra credit considering he
>has done most of the work in his team. Are other teachers/schools
>experiencing these sort of difficulties?
>
>(Not to mention that this class runs in conjunction with a small (2
>students) piggy back year 12 U3/4 class.)
>
>
>Feed back appreciated.
>
>Frank Burgers
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>From: "Ian Marshall" <IMarshall at monivae.vic.edu.au>
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>Subject: [Design and Technology] Technology Dept. maintenance template??
>Message: 2
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>Could I ask if anyone out there would have a useful template for a technology dept. maintenance schedule which they wouldn't mind sharing? I have recently taken charge of a department and am working through the process of bringing our paperwork up to scratch with the OHS requirements.
>Many thanks,
>Ian Marshall
>Monivae College
>Hamilton
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>Subject: RE: [Design and Technology] Re: team work U2 year 11.
>Message: 3
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>I think Unit 2 is great. As a teacher, it is your job to motivate the
>students and give them a reason to want to succeed in your subject. Some
>need more motivation than others, but the team aspect of the unit can be
>solved in many ways. I have found that by putting students of the same
>level in a group works very well. They push each other along most of the
>time but you also need to get them to allocate who is doing what in the
>group at the start of the project so that each person has ownership of
>certain components. No more than 2 in a group. I gave them all the same
>work brief with constraints and considerations...design a
>lamp/light....I made it into a design competition where students are
>awarded a prize for the best folio and product - voted by the class. I
>have also got the students to present to the rest of the class, what
>they have done so far at random intervals. This puts pressure on them to
>actually do something so they don't look stupid in front of their peers-
>embarrassment works.... I think by doing the folio in pairs, they are
>able to complete it far quicker which means they have more time to
>actually make and complete their product...
>Steve Catanzariti
>St. Joeys, Geelong
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: destech-bounces at edulists.com.au
>[mailto:destech-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Heather
>Aeschlimann
>Sent: Monday, 18 August 2008 12:37 PM
>To: 'Design and Technology Teachers' Mailing List'
>Subject: RE: [Design and Technology] Re: team work U2 year 11.
>
>Hi
>I do not like unit 2 as I find group work tends to reward the lazy
>students
>and over burden the better ones. My teams designed a set of furniture
>and
>each member makes their own piece out of the set. Still a lot to do in 1
>semester.
>Cheers, Heather
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: destech-bounces at edulists.com.au
>[mailto:destech-bounces at edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of Frank Burgers
>Sent: Friday, 15 August 2008 4:14 PM
>To: Design and Technology Teachers' Mailing List
>Subject: [Design and Technology] Re: team work U2 year 11.
>
>Hello to all.
>
>I'd be interested to hear feedback in regard to success or otherwise
>with
>the student design team work in Unit 2. Unfortunately I am at a small
>school
>and my clientel, nine of them, are not all terribly motivated to achieve
>in
>Design and Technology. In fact, out if the nine only one kid is genuinly
>interested in the subject. I've put them in 3 teams; in one team none of
>them wish to achieve; they are kept at school by their family against
>their
>wishes. Team 2 has medium capacity, they'll do their work if I insist
>hard
>enough and some of it is not too bad. Team 3; one kid wants to achieve,
>one
>kid couldn't care less and the other just wants to pass but is capable.
>The
>guy who wants to achieve feels he is being held back by the rest of his
>team
>who can't get their act together. I advised him to get into production
>independendly and that I may have to give him extra credit considering
>he
>has done most of the work in his team. Are other teachers/schools
>experiencing these sort of difficulties?
>
>(Not to mention that this class runs in conjunction with a small (2
>students) piggy back year 12 U3/4 class.)
>
>
>Feed back appreciated.
>
>Frank Burgers
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>Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:45:29 +1000
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>Subject: [Design and Technology] Re: destech Digest, Vol 42, Issue 9
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>
>Re: team work U2 year 11.
>
>I really enjoy team work projects but for team work to 'work' with teenagers the majority should want to do the activities. This sometimes needs some planning or giving some of the control to the students to begin with, but if you let the class 'team' decide (which you can be manipulated) ....the group takes ownership and there is not so much rebellion. Projects that have worked in the past for me are: a really funky stool (done in a production line style) Mirrors, boxes. I would also like to do a big school project..... build a giant contemporary sundial (as a monument of that classes time at school)
>Lots of ideas...so little time!!
>cheers
>John
>
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>>From: "Ian Daniels" <DanielsI at kardinia.vic.edu.au>
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>>Subject: RE: [Design and Technology] Re: team work U2 year 11.
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>>We have 16 students following Unit 2. We have set projects that will help the department ie display units, different aspects of storage. The students work in groups of 3. they are not overly happy with this unit, they would prefer to work on something individual for themselves.
>>
>>Ian Daniels
>>Design Technology Team Leader
>>Kardinia International College
>>PO Box 17
>>Geelong Vic, 3220
>>PH (03) 5278 9999
>>Fax (03) 5278 9529
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>>________________________________
>>
>>From: destech-bounces at edulists.com.au on behalf of Frank Burgers
>>Sent: Fri 15/08/2008 4:13 PM
>>To: Design and Technology Teachers' Mailing List
>>Subject: [Design and Technology] Re: team work U2 year 11.
>>
>>
>>
>>Hello to all.
>>
>>I'd be interested to hear feedback in regard to success or otherwise with
>>the student design team work in Unit 2. Unfortunately I am at a small
>>school and my clientel, nine of them, are not all terribly motivated to
>>achieve in Design and Technology. In fact, out if the nine only one kid is
>>genuinly interested in the subject. I've put them in 3 teams; in one team
>>none of them wish to achieve; they are kept at school by their family
>>against their wishes. Team 2 has medium capacity, they'll do their work if
>>I insist hard enough and some of it is not too bad. Team 3; one kid wants
>>to achieve, one kid couldn't care less and the other just wants to pass
>>but is capable. The guy who wants to achieve feels he is being held back
>>by the rest of his team who can't get their act together. I advised him to
>>get into production independendly and that I may have to give him extra
>>credit considering he has done most of the work in his team. Are other
>>teachers/schools experiencing these sort of difficulties?
>>
>>(Not to mention that this class runs in conjunction with a small (2
>>students) piggy back year 12 U3/4 class.)
>>
>>
>>Feed back appreciated.
>>
>>Frank Burgers
>>_______________________________________________
>>http://www.edulists.com.au < http://www.edulists.com.au/> - FAQ, resources, subscribe, unsubscribe
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>>http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/studies/designtech/destechindex.html - Victorian Curriculum and Assessment Authority and
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